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No.91581
Buddhists and Mughals are the reason this country has anything to show and be proud of; otherwise, India would have remained a land of worthless, savage, poop-eating losers who achieved nothing beyond writing fairytales and calling it history. Kek
uCnG3V
No.91583
i agree, now dont bump your haggu thread again.
FC/PGX
No.91587
heendus can cope and seethe but it is what it is.
☸️ ☪️ >>>>>> 🕉️
UhtKZ8
No.91589
Budhism has taken a lot of inspiration from hinduism and other dharmic philosophies, please dont associate it with that abrahmic cult
IqvBLh
No.91602
Bait but Golden age of India occurred under Gupta empire, they were official vaishnavites but in the past dharmic faiths were equally respected - apart from few cases.
Under gupta we saw
>highly structured administration
>brahmins leading the charge when it comes to art, shashtras, astronomy, science, linguistics, medicines, mathematics were extensively written under them.
Aryabhatta, Kalidasa, Patanjali, Brahmhagupta, etc. Mauryan empire itself was established under the guidance of a brahmin Chanakya, the very rise of buddhism etc. was thanks to them not vice versa.
Almost every major science, medicinal, lingustic, mathetmatics and astronomical work is result of brahmins in fact that's that's been one of the classic differences pointed out by scholars. That due to buddhists exclusion of concepts they lacked autism of brahmins which further lead to development in science, maths, etc. etc.
Compared to them mughals literally saw the degradation of empire - except in few aspects. Aurangzeb was the death kneel to the empire - spend 21 years trying to quell a rebellion only for it to arise and completely take over rest of the india in few years.
There were decent conflict on philosophical grounds among dharmic sects but most of the times major empires treated them well. Islam is inheritably different than rest of the faiths.
FC/PGX
No.91610
>>91589
>Vedas written in 7th century (there is no real proof of vadic yug)
>Puran written in muslim era
btw picrel is Valmiki Ramayana mentioning Budhha, Hinduism is not older than Buddhism
IqvBLh
No.91615
>>91610
>Hinduism is not older than Buddhism
peak retardation - is it from romulla thapar school where they claim urdu is ancient than sanskrit?
KE+X8G
No.91621
>>91581(OP)
>>91587
The biggest Hindu Temple is actually in Cambodia - Angkor Wat, In Thailand Brahmins still coronate the King.
India was influential before and after Buddha, Chola Empire is another Example.
As for Mauryan Empire, the Baroda State under Marathas lasted longer than it.
Mauryans were originally Hindus, after Ashoka, their state declined, literally nothing remains of it, Bihar is the most backward, filthy and poor state in India.
Mauryan Empire is highly exaggerated for nationalistic reasons, and Buddhism in India is long dead.
Modern India is largely a creation of Guptas, Mughlas and British.
KE+X8G
No.91623
>>91610
Vedas were passed down orally illiterate chamar, rigveda is composed of poetic hymns.
UhtKZ8
No.91628
>>91610
>>91610
>>Vedas written in 7th century (there is no real proof of vadic yug)
The Rigveda, the oldest Vedic text, is dated to 1500–1200 BCE, long before the Buddha. 563–483 BCE
>btw picrel is Valmiki Ramayana mentioning Budhha, Hinduism is not older than Buddhism
The reference to Buddha as an avatar of Vishnu occurs in the Uttarakanda, considered a later addition.
This does not mean Buddhism predates Hinduism, it shows Buddha was later absorbed into the Hindu framework.
The core Puranas were composed between 300 CE and 1000 CE, before the Muslim incursions into India. Vedic religion (early Hinduism) predates Buddhism by at least 700–1000 years.
The so called Budhdha story has got so many links to Hinduism and they dont even realise that Budhdha wanted to deviate form vaidika vidhi and created his own avaidika matham and people concocted stories around him about his previous birth and further births in the name of bodhistava jataka kathas which is purely a Hindu system of rebirth and karma sidhdhantam .
The Atharva Veda Samhita (15.1 1–7)http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil/1_sanskr/1_veda/1_sam/avs___u.htm refers to the Eka Vratya or the numero uno Vratya. Based on the context, that appears to be a reference to Rudra (Shiva). This reference is significant because it correlates Lord Rudra to the Vratya tribe. Since Rudra is the source of Tantra Vidya, that path may also be associated with the Vratyas.
Since Vratya appears to be the source of most Eastern faiths and Eka Vratya appears to be Rudra (Shiva), Sanatana Dharma (SD) or Hinduism is viewed as older than Buddhism and Jainism.
x2ARVI
No.91630
UhtKZ8
No.91631
>>91627
so we are restoring to delusions now?
IqvBLh
No.91635
>>91627
Retard there are enough literally evidences of Chanakya, along with Arthashastra, etc. even if there were later additions etc. there are still enough proof from Buddhist and Jain sources about the same.
Bad attempt at deflection of your retardation though.
uCc+qL
No.91640
nXWU3z
No.91644
Beem -meem chamar detected opinion rejected
nBM0pT
No.91655
>>91615
He is most likely Science Journey ka choda. He is a neo buddhist ambedkarite. He peddles bullshit like buddhism being older that hinduism and guptas being buddhists. Kek.
UhtKZ8
No.91656
> “This Arthashastra is made as a compendium of almost all the Arthashastras, which, in view of acquisition and maintenance of the earth, have been composed by ancient teachers. This has been written by Kautilya, also known as Vishnugupta.” — Arthashastra 15.1.72
kek the Arthashastra itself, the author directly names himself:
UhtKZ8
No.91662
>>91656
> “There is no reason to doubt the historical existence of Kautilya, and that he was instrumental in the rise of the Mauryan Empire under Chandragupta.” — R.P. Kangle, Arthashastra: Introduction, Part 1
Even, Jain sources such as Hemachandra's Parishishtaparvan and Buddhist texts like the Mahavamsa and Divyavadana describe a learned Brahmin who aids Chandragupta. These are religiously distinct sources, yet they converge on the same historical narrative, strengthening its reliability.
Greek historian Megasthenes, who lived at the court of Chandragupta Maurya, did not name Chanakya directly but described a powerful, well organized imperial bureaucracy and a council of ministers, aligning with the kind of state that Chanakya describes in the Arthashastra. "Chanakya" is not explicitly mentioned by name, the existence of such a council and the complex structure of governance is indirect but important corroboration of the political order Chanakya supposedly helped build.
nBM0pT
No.91665
>>91610
Retard. Pushyamitra Shunga's pillar literally mentions 'Ashwamedha yagya'. Please tell me who were doing yagyas back then.
Buddhists?
IqvBLh
No.91669
>>91662
>>91656
yeah - also he deleted his reply 
When people say Chanakya - they use it as synonymously with Kautilya/Vishnugupta.
>>91655
Mughal kanging makes me wonder he is that. Though even pakis mullas or sometimes indian islamists use buddhism to try to attack on heendos.
What they don't realize is that anyone who knows about dharmic history a bit knows that buddhism was missionary of its time. Anywhere you find major old hindu temple or place, you will find a buddhist one too - it's one of the easiest way to identify old hindu sites.
Also the relationship was a bit different back in the day. There's enough evidence of how single brahmin travelled to east asia and changed spiritual faith of it entirely - some of it is reflected in their lineage of kings or even ancient lores.
There's also lore of Cholas etc. but dharmic faith and related missionary work purveyed one after the together so most of us don't really care about it.
FC/PGX
No.91676
>>91635
It was the British who first read the inscriptions of the Mauryans. Before that, Hindus had no idea about the empire and used to refer to Ashoka's pillar as 'Bhima's mace from the Mahabharata.' If they knew about Chanakya and had his book, then why didn’t they know about the Mauryans?
By the way, what is the oldest manuscript of the Arthashastra? It doesn’t even date back to 1800 AD, kek they written this fake character in 1860s
nBM0pT
No.91694
>>91676
Why did we not know anything about egyptian civilization until discovery of rosetta stone in beginning of 19th century by the french? Knowledge was hard to preserve back then.
IqvBLh
No.91698
>>91676
>It was the British who first read the inscriptions of the Mauryans. Before that, Hindus had no idea about the empire and used to refer to Ashoka's pillar as 'Bhima's mace from the Mahabharata.' If they knew about Chanakya and had his book, then why didn’t they know about the Mauryans?
First decide who is your baap, you are going from buddhist to mughals to now british. Second you tried to kang about history alone now that you are failing you are switching goal posts.
Puranas, buddhist texts, etc. had ample of details about the past kings. British did contribute to archeology but that doesn't change the ownership of history at all. Major chunk of archeology was also taken over by Indians even likes of mohan jo daro, or under B.B. Lal who literally discovered huge swaths of PGW culture based on mahabharata.
>By the way, what is the oldest manuscript of the Arthashastra? It doesn’t even date back to 1800 AD, kek they written this fake character in 1860s
You are intentionally misleading people.
Due to climate most of the scripts didn't survive in India, we have rock edicts etc. which date back to mauryan era. etc.
Even the oldest manuscript, about mathematics ruls etc. written by a brahmin. Even the arthashastra' oldest copy is from 9th century but original work is dated back to the chandragupta times based on the other sources.
B3fwP5
No.91699
>>91581(OP)
Yar haggu bad b8
B3fwP5
No.91702
>>91698
It's a chomu bhim memeing us no point replying to him
nBM0pT
No.91708
>>91676
Tell me the oldest manuscripts of buddhists in india. Indian climate is too hot and humid for preservation of soft materials retard. Literature had to be constantly rewritten on fresh materials. This ended with end of hindu state patronage during islamic period.
UhtKZ8
No.91711
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GscyeZ
No.91721
>>91581(OP)
cuckboi, sit your historically illiterate ass down before you embarrass yourself harder than a mughal emperor getting clapped by a maratha raid. you really think india had nothing going on before some desert nomads pitched tents here and buddhist monks started chanting? kekek. ever heard of the indus valley civilization? built sewage systems when your desert daddy’s ancestors were still figuring out fire. vedic science gave the world zero, algebra, grammar, linguistics, ayurveda, and fuckin astronomy - when europe was too busy dying from rats and crusading over imaginary sky wizards.
f6ARfD
No.91780
>>91602
Yaar dyaus, can you not just ban any kanglu trying to LARP as Indian with a VPN? These guys have their own echo chamber to suck each other off but it seems like they prefer shitting up other chans instead
