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Once a brahmin kid wanted wate i was near him, so I offered, but he didn't take, and instead took from some other brahmin kid.

>>152810(OP)

Based, also no, I am a Brahman so no one ever denied water from me. Infact people would be actively asking me for my water. What was the experience like for you? Did you take offence to it? Also what caste are you anon, tell tell.

>>152810(OP)

mere hostel mein bhi 2 haryane ke baman they.

Woh dono in chamar brahmino se 20x zyadaa aryan dikhte thay, lekin woh toh doosron ka jhootha tak khaa jaate thay. Aksar ko baman zyadaa kaale dikhte hain wohi zyadaa itraatay hain.

>>152811

>Did you take offence to it

Obviously, yeah. I confronted him, and asked why he didn't take it from me. He was to pussy to say that it was because of my caste, and came up with some bullshit excuse.

>>152815

Pussy behaviour, I would have just straight up said I don't take water from anyone other than brahman kek. Though funny enough after I did get to know someone well enough, i eventually stop caring about these things. I feel like in the end interpersonal relationships overcome the Varna hierarchy.

>>152814

Yes, it's always the subhuman inbred looking brahmins who do this shit. I have brahmin friends who don't care about this bullshit and they look good. Also, the guy in question was a lot shorter than me and darker as well. If he said that it was because of caste, I would've punched the shit out of him, then and there.

>>152816

>varna heirarchy

Varna doesn't mean jackshit in the kali yuga. Agreed though, I'd have respected him if he owned up to it.

>>152814

>haryane

>baman

Gora Chamars are a thing anon kek, skin color is irrelevant in one's Varna kek. A white chamar is still a chamar and a dark skin baman is still a baman. Haryana and North West is full of fuck ton of low castes who started larping as Baman and have highest record of the oppression of the lower caste compared to anyone. Yet the irony is, by lineage 40% of them are not even Brahman, kek.

>>152818

Varna has always meant something and it will always mean something. You have confirmation bias since Varna doesn't favour you, and i would feel the same way if I was a lower caste. But if Varna has inherent truth to it, then we all were once one Varna lower in previous birth.

Those who have any faith in cycle of rebirth will have no issues with Varna system. This also goes with the simple fact that Varna was never disqualified by any core scriptures. Sure books like Gita does it, but Gita itself weights far less than Puranas, Manusmriti and above the rest, the Vedas.

>>152821

>faith in cycle of rebirth

I have faith in that. But, the thing is, if you look in to a lot of studies on reincarnation and shit, the vast-vast majority of reincarnation's happen within one's race. And caste is essentially the equivalent of race here, there are genetic differences. If you are jewish, you have most likely been jewish in your previous life. If you are brahmin, you most likely have been brahmin in your previous life. And so on and so forth. That's why man has loyalty to their caste/race. You're future incarnations are dependent on what you contribute to your caste/race.

>>152810(OP)

Osho said something about this issue that got stuck in my head

If you are a brahmin then how can a low caste person hold so much power over you

That you can't even drink water given by him

>>152821

I don't have faith in karma, however. It's just a cope to explain why evil happens to good people, and an attempt to keep the populace in line.

>>152825

>Osho said something about this issue that got stuck in my head

>If you are a brahmin then how can a low caste person hold so much power over you

>That you can't even drink water given by him

Because people assume that being higher Varna inherently makes you power ful and that entire thought process is flawed and retarded. That is only applicable for European caste system were going up the hierarchy directly means how much power one has. While in Varna pyramid only thing that Increases for you is divinity.

Notice how no one Varna has monopoly of it all, Knowledge, Wealth and Military, or even the food and other resources, it is well distributed.

>>152824

>I have faith in that. But, the thing is, if you look in to a lot of studies on reincarnation and shit, the vast-vast majority of reincarnation's happen within one's race.

That's factually flawed because race itself is a flawed concept. India is a subcontinent due to which nearly each region has its respective owners ethnic group.

Even more importantly births work in a fashion that if you did something right to you advance in higher Varna. It implies that all who were Shudra in this birth were not even Hindu in prior one.

>And caste is essentially the equivalent of race here, there are genetic differences. If you are jewish, you have most likely been jewish in your previous life.

Yes and no, since many Brahman and even non Brahman scholars debate this. One wonders how could a Monotheist god co exist with our poly one and the answer is, either found in Sikhi, with God's nature being infinite allows both, or simply God as they understand is not not correct. Their is no proof that you were not a Jewish in your last reincarnation.

>If you are brahmin, you most likely have been brahmin in your previous life.

That's incorrect anon, being a Brahman, or a Dwija Varna like a Kshatriya or Vaishya can only promise one thing. You were a Hindu in your past life. You simply can't be born a Dwija without being a Shudra once.

>And so on and so forth. That's why man has loyalty to their caste/race.

Loyalty to ones caste is mortal will anon. Even I despite being a Brahman, once I she'd down this mortal coil and flesh, even i won't be bound to duties of my bloodline and pride that comes with this body or this brian. Their definitely is a world without Varna, but mortal world isn't that world.

>You're

Your

>future incarnations are dependent on what you contribute to your caste/race.

While this is true, in ideal circumstances a true Brahman is one who is already one with the one above all, that is fusion of Atmana & Brahmana. This a sucessful Brahman is one that is not even born again after this death. Coincidentally their are some theories about this is why Brahman are the smallest minority within hindu Varna.

>>152827

A part of me agrees with that but a part of also disagrees with it. In the end their is no way I could defend the existence of Karma with my limited understanding of it.

But I believe that reducing the concept of Karma to a major lie is very reductive. I feel like doesn't try to explain if their is any actually phenomenon that can be explained or perhaps even controlled.

>>152830

A north brahmin and a south brahmin is genetically closer to one another than a south LC to south brahmin. You aren't acknowledging what I said and are merely qouting stuff. There's a suprising amount of studies on reincarnation. Lot of proof.

>>152819

>by lineage 40% of them are not even Brahman, kek

in other states the situation is far worse

>>152831

>major lie is very reductive.

Fair enough.

How do you caste autists explain people living far away from India in first world countries.They don't know anything about hindooism and live a life much better than your avg brahmeme.

Your muh karma bs would mean that they were all very devoted brahmemes, right?

>>152838

*devoted brahmemes in past lives

>>152838

Yeah, karma is either not real or not as described in hinduism texts. Hinduism is designed to be a tool for controlling the populace, same as any other organised religion.

>>152840

Hindu texts

>>152840

I know.

Just want to see the copes they come up with

>>152845

What do you think about: >>152824?

>>152836

picrel

>>152824

Another thing is, most brahmins would be disgusted if you told them that they were shudra in a past life. That's because they intuitively know that it's not true.

Nvking caste kanging in 2 min

>>152849

Fuck off. It's allowed in the rules.

>>152846

Indian castes are heavily mixed except maybe some brahmin lineages. How do you explain kids of intercaste or mixed race couples, where does their soul comes from?

>>152851

They can come from either group. But their Souls are not in harmony with their Flesh. For optimal performance, both should match.

>>152850

>Caste kanging is allowed in the rules.

No rule discreetly mentions about this. But these types of threads are repeatedly annoying anons. Reports have been received on earlier such threads.

>>152857

>annoying anons

If you get annoyed, you shouldn't be on an imageboard.

Ask dyaush. What would this place be if not for caste kanging. Anyways, this isn't the usual kanging, we are talking about other stuff such as reincarnation and shit. Your job is not to remove stuff that you find annoying or stuff that displeases you. Stick to removing shit that violates the rules.

>>152857

>reports

Anyone can report anything. Just because something is reported heavily doesn't mean rules are violated.

>>152857

nobody is asking them to participate if they find it annoying.

There are tons of annoying low iq threads made everyday but you only object to these threads for some unknown reason.

>>152860

>you get annoyed

I simply don't care.

It's anons who get annoyed and go on report such threads as far as 2-3 times.

>>152863

>>152861

>>152863

can you show us the screenshot of report count on this thread ?

>>152863

Then dont care. Just because a report is filed, doesn't mean you have to take action. It doesn't violate the rules. If you have any doubt, ask dyaush.

>>152865

Sorry, moderator window can't be made public. I don't touch threads unless I receive reports.

>>152867

so how many reports has this thread received by now ?

>>152867

>I don't touch threads unless I receive reports.

Reports are there to assist you. You should be looking at the board and remove threads that go against policy, regardless if they have been reported or not.

>>152869

0 is my guess

so where were we anans, i am in mood of conversation on this topic right now.

I will mainly rely on genetics and ancient (mostly pre-puranic) religious texts to prove my statements.

>>152873

go ahead

>>152869

2 from the same ip. I'll count them as one.

>>152875

which post should i address ?

>>152877

hmm. we haven't abused any caste in this thread as of now. The liberal posters has already started seething about this.

>>152879

Anything

>>152882

i will have to read them, wat for 2 mins.

i am active in other threads as well so generally i don't read all posts

>>152810(OP)

I am not a brahmin but I have read a lot about parasitology so I carry my own copper ki water bottle too.

>>152886

Fair enough, I carry my own water bottle as well.

>>152825

osho doesn't know shit about traditional hinduism

>>152830

>That's incorrect anon, being a Brahman, or a Dwija Varna like a Kshatriya or Vaishya can only promise one thing. You were a Hindu in your past life

source ?

if we go by puranas then there are many references where animals and non-living objects/trees/rivers etc have reincarnated as maharishis

>>152834

>A north brahmin and a south brahmin is genetically closer to one another than a south LC to south brahmin

not necessarily but it might be correct in the case of paternal haplogroups depending on the gotra of that specific person.

>>152838

caste has nothing to do with development.

>>152840

>Hinduism is designed to be a tool for controlling the populace

it would be abrahamic religion which are designed for this purpose.

Hinduism goes to the next level. It is designed to exploit the populace. Thats why it emphasizes heirarchy while abrahimic religions promise equality on the hand.

>>152848

>most brahmins would be disgusted if you told them that they were shudra in a past life

only the unlearned brahmin would think like that.

I think you aren't a brahmin. In reality brahmins have a LOT of tolerance for these things.

There is nothing much to address in this whole thread. You can go on further if you like.

t. not brahmin

>>152895

Of course I'm not a brahmin, I'm the OP. Also, nice response. I do agree that only an unlearned brahmin would think that though.

>>152810(OP)

Modi and hindutva facism caused this

BMAC influence:

A common thing found only among Vedic/Avestans due to BMAC/Oxus influence is the sacred thread ceremony. Missing among older steppe Aryas and later subcontinental ones. Heavily correlated with Agni-Soma fire altars Yajnas done by Atharvans learnt around Oxus which is perhaps another point on the BMAC influence

>>152899

>>152899

Basically

The Brahmanical religion has 7 layers of gods -

Shared with PIE - Dyus Pitr, Manu-Yama

Shared with Cordedware - Sol/Surya, Bog/Bhagwan/Bhagya

Shared with BMAC - Indra, Nana/Durga

Shared with IVC - Shiva/Shakti

Shared with Gangetic plains - Rama,Gopal/Krishna, Buddha

Shared with Deccan - Vitthal

Shared with Dravida - Murgan

SEA - Devi Tara, Chinese goddesses

Maybe more in South East Asia and Far East.

But the crux of the early Vedic/Avestan religion which are Agni-Soma-Rta framework very likely come from BMAC.

>>152834

>A north brahmin and a south brahmin is genetically closer to one another than a south LC to south brahmin.

That i agree with since that can be aligned with scriptures. By scriptures every real Brahmin by blood comes from Seven sages or the eight sage. Thus, all within that lineage will have same paternal Haplogroup.

So you are not wrong. We all would be similar to each other despite our distance, and we will have similar cultures kept alive despite some ethnic and linguistic difference.

However that is two people existing along side each other in same bloodline. Me having, say a sibling who is also Brahman doesn't mean that I would be born a Brahman again, or that I was a Brahman in past life.

>You aren't acknowledging what I said and are merely qouting stuff.

I apologise if you feel that way, please clarify which part would you like me to address. I shall do so with best of my abilities and knowledge. I won't deny that I am quoting stuff, since a lot of my understanding of Dharma comes from our books. Thus some i may disagree on, some are an extension of me.

>There's a suprising amount of studies on reincarnation. Lot of proof.

Feel free to quote some of tou have anything. I would be genuinely interested and love to see if any align or contradict with schools of dharmic philosophies.

However I strongly doubt that we are meant to be reborn within the same Varna, as that seems detrimental according to me. It would also means will also means, that everyone who is not born a Hindu is abandoned. I do not think that the Para Bramhan is that cruel. I believe you all are lucky to have been elevated to status of Shudra, and i believe those that are Avarnajat, will be Shudra in next life from good deed.

>>152836

In other states the situation isn't worse at all. It is actually by far THE worse in Haryana. Haryana at its current state, shows the least amount of R1a compared to anyone else. This would mean that anyone who claims to be of "certain gotra"

>let's say Sage Atri

Five "brahman" of haryana, from Atri lineage will have have different haplogroups, meaning they all came from different lineages. This would in end mean they are not from Atri Gotra. This would mean they are simply, not Brahman. As a result this won't align with the Haplogroup of every other person who is from Atri lineage.

This simply means that the misconception of looks and appearance being equated to ones caste did a lot of damage in Haryana. Where, Gora Chamars proceeded to larp as Bamans and then went on to oppress their brethren for having darker skin.

>>152837

I am glad you can find aggreement in that.

>>152905

I agree with most of it, specially Dyaus Pitra, but I feel like Goddesses were likely native to Dravida region in general. Most certainly SEA plays a big part here, but I feel like some element of it pre existed in Dravida. Also i believe Corded Ware would have referred to Bhagya as Bhaga.

>>152907

>It is actually by far THE worse in Haryana. Haryana at its current state, shows the least amount of R1a compared to anyone else

source ?

Its a common knowledge thhat the more north west you the the more prevalent is R1a in those populations regardless of caste.

>>152897

and they should repent

>4.54.3: Whatever insult we have brought to the divine race, because of heedlessness, or scant skills, or excess of power, or our sheer human nature, o Savitṛ, among both the gods and the sons of Manu, absolve us of our offense.

sinauli chariot used by early rigvedic aryans.

Using these they genocided the natives and thats how R1a became prevalent in northern parts of the sub-continent.

>>152915

>Its a common knowledge thhat the more north west you the the more prevalent is R1a in those populations regardless of caste.

Which doesn't nessesarily mean that R1a is specifically higher in the Brahman of Haryana region. You are creating facts when they are mere coincidence. Your argument is proven wrong by a clean look at the stars you gave.

Here UP KKB Shandilya, WB Shandilya as well as UP Saryu (also KKB) Kasyap are boasting the highest R1 a frequency despite all of this region not falling in North West, but rather North East.

If you look carefully, JK and Brahmans here ha e relatively lower frequency of R1, boasting a much higher J2, JX and R2, despite them being from the North West.

Another way to analyse it is this way,

WB Shandilya shows majority of R1a, so does UP Saryu Shandilya, but that number fluctuates to a large degree in J&K Shandilya, which means J&K had highest number of people who simply got sanskritised, while those from other region did actually originate from sage Shandilya.

>I just realised the OP never told me his caste and we just highjacked this thread, I am sorry OP.

>>152938

give source, you posted an image of shiva

>>152895

>source ?

>Manusmriti 10.64:

>By practising the duties of another varna, a Shudra may be reborn as a Vaishya, a Vaishya as a Kshatriya, and a Kshatriya as a Brahmana

>शूद्रो वैश्यतां याति वैश्यः क्षत्रियता गतः ।

>क्षत्रियाज्जायते विप्रः ब्राह्मण्यं क्षत्रियाज्जयेत् ॥

>Viṣṇu Purāṇa – Book 3, Chapter 8, Verse 9

>जन्मान्तरकृतैः कर्मभिः ब्राह्मणत्वादि जायते।

>The castes are the result of acts in previous lives.

Based on these it is fair to assume that one is, and could be a certain Varna based on action of past lives. But also, this doesn't mean we can not be reborn in current Varna. I believe it is only a little natural that we will be born a few times in a certain role till we get it right and progress even further. It also believes we can regress in Varna as well, which i believe also is sensible.

>>152947

this doesn't negate the fact that some animals can also reincarnate as dwijas

>>152895

>there are many references where animals and non-living objects/trees/rivers etc have reincarnated as maharishis

That is correct anon, but I feel like context would play a huge part. Maharishi would be one of the descendants of eight sages or one of the said eight sages themself. I believe their example of reincarnation has to be a tad bit different than ours, given they likely didn't experience mortality quite same as us.

>>152895

>only the unlearned brahmin would think like that.

>I think you aren't a brahmin. In reality brahmins have a LOT of tolerance for these things.

Thank you for addressing this as well. I do not understand why and how this misunderstanding even came to be. This is why I have held North West Brahmans in high contempt.

Their is a very good reason why Brahmans have actively taken part in caste reformation, truth is if castes themself were not dehumanising by their social dynamic, everyone wouldn't even have an issue with caste system as a whole.

Their cultural exchange with the communities such as Jatt and other has led to this horrible breed of "bomans" who are vocally aggresive, without blood rights to our Varna and knowing nothing about the faith they kang on.

Like you just said, only an unlearnt brahmin will behave that way, or to be exact, someone who has close to no Brahman linage in the first place.

>>152949

And I will not disagree with that, however I feel like that would become a little complicated rom here. In order to be a Dwija one has to be born a Shudra. But does it ever say that

>Your exact last birth has to be a Shudra?

No right? Perhaps a Shudra can do something wrong enough to be born and Animal. But as an animal too he can do something right enough to qualify to be reborn a Dwija, thanks to the fact that he has already been born a Shudra once.

>>152954

Please as per your theology explain what is the karma of a 6'6" blonde hair blue eyes guy to have been born in a pleasant country like norway and what is the karma of a brahmin to have been born in a shithole like UP ?

>>152940

>give source, you posted an image of shiva

I don't need to, since your own post prove you wrong with lower frequency of the R1a in J&K Brahmans compared to North Eastern ones. Regardless here. I believed you were intelligent enough to figure this out, but I falsely assumed you were a Brahman, and for that i apologise

>>152954

but you didn't posted any source for you claims about the lineages of north-west brahmins in comparison to brahmins of the rest of India.

I want a source for you genetic claims that you made in your post above.

>>152960

>Please as per your theology

Theology isn't mine anon, i am theology's.

>explain what is the karma of a 6'6" blonde hair blue eyes guy

Same as a negro in Suburban africa who is 6'9. You are attributing superficial traits such as lack of melanin in hair and eyes with higher chances of cancer as something superior.

For that you are not to blame as you grew in a culture that strongly antagonised what you were born with. You grew in a culture internalising a group of subhumans who think they are superior to you. It's the same karma as a light skinned pink pig is porn in Ukraine and a Tawny Lion in born in Forest of Gir. Heavens above didn't ruin this nations anon, melanin deprived subhumans and incompetence of our population did.

>to have been born in a pleasant country like norway and what is the karma of a brahmin to have been born in a shithole like UP ?

One that probably doesn't place too much value on pleasure. Personally this might even be a cope, but I truly truly am glad to have been born in this shit hole. If I was born anywhere else I wouldn't have having this combo.

If I was born anywhere else their would be no nation to build. For that I am grateful, as god have given me a chance to bring glory, to the Brahmans and Shudras alive, who will help me.

>>152967

in the pic i posted, you have conveniently ignored the UP saryuparin gotras.

moreover i don't even know anything about the sample size of that image

as far as the pic that you posted is concerned you can clearly see that the sample size is very small (n=99) so its difficult to make any conclusions from it.

>>152965

Yaar Shudra...

>>152967

>You are attributing superficial traits such as lack of melanin in hair and eyes with higher chances of cancer as something superior.

Very conveniently ignored the other traits like high IQ, high impulse control, low tolerance for dirtyness, good looks, good health genes, etc

>For that you are not to blame as you grew in a culture that strongly antagonised what you were born with. You grew in a culture internalising a group of subhumans who think they are superior to you.

Wishful thinking. Just thinking that someone is subhuman and repeating it 1000 times wont make it true.

>Heavens above didn't ruin this nations anon, melanin deprived subhumans and incompetence of our population did.

Cope. We are a shithole because of overall shit genetics and on top of that a cultural layer of caste infighting which leads to everyone looking out for their own small tribe and never achieveing a common goal.

>If I was born anywhere else their would be no nation to build. For that I am grateful, as god have given me a chance to bring glory, to the Brahmans and Shudras alive, who will help me.

Kitana cope karega pajeet. There is no nation building here. Only nation leaving. And what part of caste kanging on an imageboard constitutes as nation building?

>>152977

He is father painbringer caste autist but he doesnt wanna give away his identity so hes paraphrasing shit through chatgpt.

Look in this reply >>152907

>I apologise if you feel that way, please clarify which part would you like me to address. I shall do so with best of my abilities and knowledge.

>>152819

in today's age, your loox, money status, health & intelligence is your caste and guess what, this caste system is a gloablised caste system. That means the avg swede or dane is the brahmin or the kshatriya and the avg indian is a chamar even if he/she is a 'brahmin'

kaise kaise chutiye aa jate hai yar iss board pe

>>152970

>in the pic i posted, you have conveniently ignored the UP saryuparin gotras

Saryuparin is NOT a gotra it is a "Shakha", kindly refrain from using words you don't understand. Gotra refers to bloodline, of seven sages or the eight sage. Saryuparin is a shakha that had to be disconnected from Kanyakubja shakha. Shakha are based on regions not bloodlines.

Saryuparin were seperated by Kanyakubja for their patronage to lord Rama and their legacy of having lived "Saryu Par" (literally across the river).

As far as that goes, no matter which shakha you belong from, Gaur, Saraswat or Telangana, if you claim that you descend from a certain sage, it would and logically should match with everyone else claiming the ancestory from same sage. That is unless you meant "Saryuparin'S gotra" then still in

>>152938

I have addressed Saryuparin (shakha) "Shandilya" (gotra).

>>152973

most brahmins in pakistan got converted to islam.

btw according to this pic Gour brahmins have only H haplogroup which is associated with AASI.

Thats why I say that sample size and sampling methodology is extremeply important to draw conclusiuons.

The pic that you posted about Haryana has a sample size of 99. It is very much possible that all those 99 participants might be hailing from a single village or a group of villages nearby.

>>152983

what i want to say is that these infographics mean nothing if we don't know anything about their sampling

read this >>152984

>>152978

>high IQ

Your own lack of intellect doesn't translate to entire nation. Kind refrain from projecting your bitterness upon actually human beings.

>Low tolerance for dirtyness

Queen Isabella of Spain said that she took only two baths in her entire life. If you can't take a shower that is a you problem, why project it on rest of us?

>Just thinking that someone is subhuman and repeating it 1000 times wont make it true.

A white woman slept with a 100 men to set a whole new record. Nation normalised children being butchered and their genitals being simply multilated in name of fixing gender dysphoria. Marriage among men, Epstein island, P Diddy, I could go on and on.

But truth is you hate your own identity. Hum chahe jitna prayas karle, kintu aapki grina aapke man me samayi hai. Humare vachan se apki ghrina apne aap ke prati kam nahi hogi.

>Cope

Seethe

>pajeet

Look in a mirror anon.

>And what part of caste kanging on an imageboard constitutes as nation building?

One that allows me to enlighten retards like you who are only capable of self hatered, and expect rest of us to hate ourself as well, solely because you specifically failed as a human being, as an ok son and as a decent man. Unfortunately that struggle is yours alone, and we can't share all of that burden.

>>152980

That's some unhealthy Copium.

>>152981

That has always been the caste anon. Varna and caste were never interchangeable in the first place. Their is a reason Jatts are upper caste despite being significantly low in the Hindu Varna hierarchy. Caste always has been about one's societal place. Varna doesn't dictate my caste, working in an MNC and making fuck ton of cash does.

>That means the avg swede or dane is the brahmin or the kshatriya and the avg indian is a chamar even if he/she is a 'brahmin'

No anon, it just means Swede are high caste and Kshatriya and Brahmin are low caste. Like i said, Varna and caste were never truly interchangeable in the first place.

Think about it in context of Maharastra, where the Balutedari system placed Dwija Vaishya varna lower than some Shudras despite hem being non Dwija. You are not wrong, you are just phrasing it poorly.

>>152982

Agreed yaar, please leave, you reduced the total braincell count of this thread by half.

>>152984

>btw according to this pic Gour brahmins have only H haplogroup which is associated with AASI.

Which goes on to prove they are infact, not Brahmins at all. But an interesting facts is, the region that is now known as Gaud/Gaur was never situated in North West in the first place. It was situated in North East. Makes you think a little bit doesn't it?

>Thats why I say that sample size and sampling methodology is extremeply important to draw conclusiuons.

This i completely agree with and I will say that my judgement to rash here. I believed a proper census chman change a lot on how we all are viewing the caste bullshitry and make it make somewhat sense.

>>152977

>You mask your contempt for Non-Brahmans

That is a bold assumption, but also a claim that i hold 96% Indians in contempt which simply can not be true for any human being. As a Brahman i can only resolve the cesspool of my own Varna before I can tackle any other's.

>with a veneer of acceptance

I have made no claims of acceptance, i simply treat it as i do. If you are my Varna good, if you are not, also good. It won't magically make me respect your opinion more, if it happens to be retarded anamas, and yours is.

>and fake humility

I replied to this thread by asking OP what is his caste and claiming untouchability is based. What part of that seemed like humble to you lmao. Yaar tum bhimte bhi na.

>>152987

>what i want to say is that these infographics mean nothing if we don't know anything about their sampling

That is completely fair and i agree with it. Small sample size can be factually wrong and doesn't nessesarily reflect the entire populace. I have no counter argument against that.

>>152849

Thank you for not nuking it instantly mod. I feel like the conversation while bit derailed, has still been on the civil side compared to most threads.

>>153005

Hope you find peace anon.

>>152994

so even gours can't be dismissed as dasyus.

Riddle me this...

1- We all know that the prevalence of R1a in overall population is highest in north-west and lowest in south east.

2- Even non-brahmins of north-west carry R1a predominantly

Which mean even if the Brahmins of north-west originally belonged to non-brahmin groups then still they should be carrying the R1a haplogroup due to their geographical location.

then why did you claim here >>152954 that they do not have "blood rights" when you base your conclusions on the faulty studies (due to very low sample size) because that would mean that not even Jatts got converted into brahmins in those region but the absolute dalits got converted into brahmins who don't carry R1a haplogroup predominantly unlike Jats and other north-western non-dalit castes ?

>Their cultural exchange with the communities such as Jatt and other has led to this horrible breed of "bomans" who are vocally aggresive, without blood rights to our Varna and knowing nothing about the faith they kang on.

>>152993

>Your own lack of intellect doesn't translate to entire nation. Kind refrain from projecting your bitterness upon actually human beings.

The condition of the nation speaks for itself.

>Queen Isabella of Spain said that she took only two baths in her entire life. If you can't take a shower that is a you problem, why project it on rest of us?

Muh so and so said so and so

Who cares?

If you must compare something from 600 years ago, before industrial revolution, before proper plumbing, etc to justify living like shit in whichever dehat shithole you crawled out from, then its already over.

>A white woman slept with a 100 men to set a whole new record. Nation normalised children being butchered and their genitals being simply multilated in name of fixing gender dysphoria. Marriage among men, Epstein island, P Diddy, I could go on and on.

These are deviations from the mean.

I could say the same about india. People are dying on road worshipping celebs, dying in a plane, dying in train, beaten up by MLA, etc. No ampunt of coping would change the fact that its a shithole nation you are born in lmao. Events that are daily occurences here are occassional events everywhere else.

>But truth is you hate your own identity. Hum chahe jitna prayas karle, kintu aapki grina aapke man me samayi hai. Humare vachan se apki ghrina apne aap ke prati kam nahi hogi.

Presenting the truth = self hatred

Being delusional = self love

Lol

>That's some unhealthy Copium.

We know who you are lil bro. Janny lingammed you the other day. JFL @ your antics.

Keep coping pajeet.

Keep spamming those genetics charts.

It wont change the facts.

Saaar we wuzz bmac and shieett, rahega toh tu pajeet hi chahe kitna cope karle.

Even tamil lund looks more sane when compared to caste autists like you

don't fight over small things

>>153009

>they do not have "blood rights" when you base your conclusions on the faulty studies (due to very low sample size)

Because my statement would still apply to the number of people who participated in the said sample.

>Even non-brahmins of north-west carry R1a predominantly

That is fair assessment.

>Which mean even if the Brahmins of north-west originally belonged to non-brahmin groups then still they should be carrying the R1a haplogroup due to their geographical location.

Not quite anon, because you are failing to factor that pre sanskritisation, not everyone was mixing with everyone in the said groups.

>but the absolute dalits got converted into brahmins who don't carry R1a haplogroup

That is correct anon, if we are following the said scriptures, and they claim they are from certain gotra, their should be reason their bloodline doesn't matches other from same gotra. This the only answer is, those who were Avarnajat as well as Shudra simply took Brahmin status.

>>153012

>If you must compare something from 600 years ago, before industrial revolution, before proper plumbing, etc to justify living like shit in whichever dehat shithole you crawled out from, then its already over.

Anon stop projecting your insecurities of having grown up in a poor environment upon everyone in the thread. Please consult the charts.

>These are deviations from the mean.

Please check out beastiality statistics, homosexual marriage rights and gender reassignment surgery stats by nation. Again, your lack of intellect doesn't constitute a failure on my part, or anyone else in this thread.

>No ampunt

Wipe your tears before you type yaar.

>rahega toh tu pajeet hi chahe kitna cope karle.

Read this anon.

>We know who you are lil bro

>Chasing ghosts on an anonymous board

Smartest bhangichaner, yaar it's always the retards without the intellect or integrity to add anything to convo. Tum bhimte bhi na yaar.

>>153017

>apply to the number of people who participated

and not to the entire caste group in that region.

>those who were Avarnajat as well as Shudra simply took Brahmin status

Jats are shudra but they are predominantly R1a.

Dalits aren't shudras, they are mlechhas/chandalas and it were them who converted to brahmins in the northwest region according to your theory which is based on faulty infographics.

>>153026

>and not to the entire caste group in that region.

And that's completely fair, I would say that makes my statement only hypothetically plausible at best.

>Jats are shudra but they are predominantly R1a.

Jats are not Shudra anon, Jata are Avarnajat as they have rejected Varna status entirely through their lifetime.

>Dalits aren't shudras, they are mlechhas/chandalas

Chandala are a varnasankar class of we are to go by manusmriti. While not all Shudra are dalit, some are actually.

>and it were them who converted to brahmins in the northwest region according to your theory which is based on faulty infographics.

The issue here is assumption that R1a is the ONLY Haplogroup to exist in Northwest among lower caste. Their is no proof that a specific family or bloodline within the said Shudra or Avarnajat took Brahmin status. Which would perfectly align with my statement while also keeping sanctity of yours.

>>152887

Lowkey I think in the end everyone sort of carries their own water bottle. I don't think anyone who was born in 90's or later preferred sharing their water bottle, specially if it is one of those "chuk chuk sip sip" wala bottle.

>>153024

>Please consult the charts.

Ohnonono the charts again.

Anon cant into the fact that people in cold nations have to bathe less and people in hot and humid environments have to bathe more because of more perspiration. And even after that this whole nation reeks of shit and piss.

>inb4 anon if you grew up in [xyz] it doesnt mean we also.... blahblah blah

>Please check out beastiality statistics, homosexual marriage rights and gender reassignment surgery stats by nation.

These are diseases of abundance. People here die of hunger they dont have the time or the resources to do all that. You comparing western nations degen stuff to indian nation is like a beggar laughing at ambani because ambani has to pay higher taxes. You are not even in the race, because it never began. Not to mention that things like lizard raping, digging graves to rape skeletons, etc come from india. Just yesterday some pajeet got caught raping a gori maams teddy bear. Must be the R1a acting up.

>Smartest bhangichaner, yaar it's always the retards without the intellect or integrity to add anything to convo. Tum bhimte bhi na yaar.

Sure bro, talking about integrity after deflecting from the truth and making 10 adhominems in a single post. cant expect any better from haploautists. Back to jatland wiki dehati.

>>153035

>Jats are not Shudra

picrel shankaracharya refers to this book, read this

https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.343748

>The issue here is assumption that R1a is the ONLY Haplogroup to exist in Northwest among lower caste

I never claimed anything like that. i was only talking about the regional averages.

>Their is no proof that a specific family or bloodline within the said Shudra or Avarnajat took Brahmin status

why would there be ? I am not disputing anything here tho.

>>153040

>chuk chuk sip sip

like your mother on my lund

I don't live in some UP-Bihar shihole, so no.

Living breathing B_SA and B_FR4 specimen right here

>>153054

I'll go through the book anon, appreciate it.

>>153060

>Your mom jokes

What being a snivelling faggot without working braincells does to a bhangi. This would be just the perfect time for you to unironically go and kill yourself.

It may seem like something you see often on this board, but your mother finally won't have to see the utter failure and filthy gross parasite that kept freeloading inside her 9 month.

Out of countless men who have been inside the whore that you call your mother, she most likely regrets you the most.

>>153062

>Implying UP and Bihar are only shit holes

Lmao yaar.

>>153063

>Consult the charts

So what does being an S1 feel like anon?

>>153076

chuk chuk sip sip urrfffff. ye tranime watchers ki maa bhi kitni randi hoti hai

>>152810(OP)

>Has someone ever denied water from you

Not water but my village back there has 1 segregated temple where lower caste aren't encouraged to enter for anything other than work. There is no discrimination for water, everybody can drink from any handpump. It happened somehere in between 2000s. Our village as a whole is more backward than other villages around.

>>153078

It's fine tbh, because the irony of a Pajeet posting it is essentially the equivalent of a house negro thinking he is any better than a field negro. I can only laugh such things off, so will most people.

>>152814

>doosron ka jhootha tak khaa jaate thay

Now looking back there was a guy with surname Kandpal who drank water from my bottle by joothayin it (saala muuh laga k pee gaya mere bottle se bkl chee phir maine bottle dhoya apna kek) in kalej days

>>153076

They're the only shitholes where kids are caste kanging. The rest of us are taught to hate all poorfags without distinction.

>>153082

>Gets called a failed abortion

>Makes some blowjob sounds

Why are closet faggots like this?

>>153084

Could you elaborate about the temple a little bit?

>>153090

kek isko toh anal periods hogaye iski maa ko lund mere lund pe chuk chuk sip sip karte dekh

>>153087

>The rest of us are taught to hate all poorfags without distinction.

That assumes that the hatered should only be limited to poor fags, and assuming I hate anyone for being born lower than me. I hold anyone for not being born better, in zero contempt, but at best pity. Even within same financial status, their is no rule that claims I can't hold those who are lower than be in contempt.

If I was born in lower Varna i too would chase a ruling class system such as financial status. But since I have had the privilege of being both rich and Dwija, can be as elitist I like, and hume the rich lower castes who thinks they are magically above others.

>>153086

Lmao yaar.

>>153091

Yaar Pajeet.

>>152810(OP)

No because I am a baman.

>>153076

>So what does being an S1 feel like anon?

Ask yourself faggot

Saying that as if its gonna erase the nignoggery u did in the whole thread

>>153085

Ayo we wuzz field negro an shiet

We wuzz r1a bmac an shiet

Ayo you wuzz the uhhmmm bhimta an shiet

Pathetic, but expected

My final words for anons in this thread:

All pajeets are pajeets with ±5% of variance. Chimping out about caste or ancestry or skin colour or whatever trait is like two rats fighting over whoever has the better sewer. Looks and money are what matters, anything else is unemployed cope.

>>153102

yaar randi ke pille. chuk chuk sip sip karne se toh rok le apni maa ko. mera lund bada kar diya itna chuk chuk sip sip karke usne

>>153099

Hating dehati isn't so much because they deserve to be hated, but because you can never truly trust them. Anyone who has ever has been in a position where they had to supervise or deal with dehatis employees will know that you can never treat them kindness since they view it as a weakness.

And dehatis isn't a status that's limited to lower castes.

>>153090

Just a big random ass temple for baman. The temple is actually small. Rest of it is just mangi trees. I don't visit my village so i have never seen it open. I just know that lowercaste aren't allowed there. Also there is segregation in chhathpuja for tents. Only our village is that backward. Every other village around has doesn't follow any such customs now.

>>153110

>iski maa ko lund mere lund pe

>Lund mere Lund pe

>?!

Yaar... Pajeet.

>>153111

Dehati themself are a caste anon. Like i stated earlier, caste has never been directly relevant to Varna. On Europe, the caste of a person changes quite frequently based on how they are elevated. Peasants have become kings, and ruled the nations, the same is not true for Varna. Dehati are a caste on its own, simply not referred to as so

Puranavid ki yad dila di yar he used to say some shit like if a women or sfudra is seen then he sfops eafing for fhe day

>>153117

Ye aa gaya dehati apni aukaaat me finally post kardiya hentai, after pretending to be holier than thou r1a for the whole thread

Haploautists are never not gonna be funny.

>>153114

That's unfortunate, in this day and age. However I can see if it is a private temple, and not one that is aided by goverment, people can put such rules upon it. When you say lower caste, is it in the traditional sense, or Dwija, or is it just random bullshit go? Or does it have some extreme tier negrofaggotry such as only Brahmans being allowed in it?

>>153117

aww look at the amount of anal periods youre releasing today tranimefag. here read again while i enjoy some of your cheap whore mother's chuk chuk sip sip:

yaar randi ke pille. chuk chuk sip sip karne se toh rok le apni maa ko. mera lund bada kar diya itna chuk chuk sip sip karke usne

>>153122

>Lund pe lund

Yaar... Closet Pajeet.

>>153122

>>153127

chuk chuk sip sip 🍆🍆🍆🍆💦💦💦💦💦

coomed yaara. kitni randi maa hai re teri 😂

>>153117

>Dehati themself are a caste anon

No one uses Dehati to mean a specific caste anymore, it just to call someone a yokel.

And I have friends who fall under ST and other lower caste and I consider them worth more than some UC living in some tier 4-5 city shithole, leeches off my tax money.

>>153126

Anon you can write as many things you want from a key board as you seethe here, but it won't make you any less inferior nor would it make me any more. In the end I will stay a baman and the lowers will stay lowers, yaar, kek.

>>153136

>No one uses Dehati to mean a specific caste anymore

Because that definition itself aligns caste with a Varna. But their is no saying that it will not change with time, as time continues to pass anon.

>>153138

who said i was a bhangi kek. yaar itna kyu anal periods hora hai tujhe aaj tranimefag

lete jaa apni maa ko yaha se pls. mere gote khaali karwa diye par saali randi ruk nahi rahi. bolti hai ki ghar pe usse pajeet husband aur tranime dekhne wale bacche ke paas nahi jaana.

iss chinaal ka kuch karo pls 🥵

>>153123

>However I can see if it is a private temple, and not one that is aided by goverment,

Temples aren't private. They are donated for everyone. But back then people donated for their community.

>does it have some extreme tier negrofaggotry such as only Brahmans being allowed in it?

Yeah. Only brahmin and rajputs. Bhumihars. Aside from that some brahmin guys get along well with Lower caste, aside from obvious "No"s.

>>153138

ye chuk chuk sip sip kab tak chalega ,koi toh roklo isko maa ko aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>153138

Ayo we wuzz r1a baman and shiet

>posts a tranime character of a redhead white man

Zero self awareness

>>153163

do you want some chuk chuk sip sip too? my balls have been sucked clean by his cheap whore mummy 🥵

>>153163

kek

>>153163

Japanese art of a white man, that a pajeet is self inserting as. Absolute state of brahmemes.

>>153172

Wait for the patrick bateman with tilak too

>>153004

Aged well

>>153108

>Keeps a cuckold chart

>We are the same saar

Stop the cope yaar.

>>153149

>>153160

Stop texting walking anon, its ok, it will stop hurting. You simply were not born better, try again.

>>153151

>But back then people donated for their community.

You kind of answer yourself with that one, anon. I understand in ancient times the untouchable or panchama were unhygienic and thus were not nessesarily allowed in temples. But unless a temple is limited to specific Varna or Gender, I see no point in restraining anyone from having to enter it.

>Yeah. Only brahmin and rajputs. Bhumihars. Aside from that some brahmin guys get along well with Lower caste, aside from obvious "No"s.

>Bhumihar

>Uporer Caste

Lmao yaar the irony, sorry to hear that. The fact that even Vaishya probably don't get an entry is so retarded.

>>153173

Is he father painbringer kek? I didn't know he could speak english.

>>153175

Lmao yaar.

>>153172

Escanor isn't white per say, since human race is merged pretty deeply in 7DS. But i get the point you are making.

>>153178

Yeah he is paraphrasing shit through gpt, isnt hard to figure out. Even used botspeak here >>152907

>>153182

loose bhosda damage control right here

>>153183

It's not ai, to be fair. There are some errors here and there like "tou" and "i".

>>153183

>>153185

>Bhangis when they see, you can be fluent in a globally spoken language

Yaar Pajeet...

>>153176

chuk chuk sip sip mommy ka bhosda loose hai?? wait lemme check

>>153189

loose bhosde Teri maa ka hai aur anal periods tujhe hore hai. kya baman banega tu

>>153189

>resorts to namecalling in true pajeet fashion

Anon do you not even have an ounce of self awareness. You are sitting here on a random wednesday at 2pm doing caste and genetics autism, calling whites as subhuman, then avatarfagging as white characters meanwhile your mother is in the other room sucking dry bihari mazdoors just to get ration for your unemployed ass

>b-but we wuzz the baman and shiet

>>153192

>Bhangis after being brootally beaten up by life

Yaar Pajeet...

>>153198

Kek is he the guy constantly talking about "anal periods"?

>>153200

yaar failed abortionjeet

>>153201

yes

>>153200

kek, he's seething.

post some bateman edits to cheer him up

>>153201

tranimefags are actual subhumans. no wonder he needs to kang as baman to not be outright subhuman

>>153199

>>153198

>Literally hurt by someone being born better than them

Yaar Pajeets...

For a guy who calls whites subhuman, he sure spends a lot of time fangirling over one.

>>153207

His baman identity is the only thing he has. The non-dysgenic brahmins don't care that much about all this bullshit, because they have other things going for them.

>>153213

chuk chuk sip sip

>>153213

If you had to chose between being a 6'6 white norwegian or a 5'2 baman in your next life, which would you pick? Genuinely asking.

>>153214

he is an aasi baman

no wonder his randi maa tried to abort him but that stupid whore even failed at that. shes only good for chuk chuk sip sip

>>153217

Uski ma ka bhosda loose hai, he will be a 8 foot steppe horse chimera centaur with r1a dna in his next birth and he will spread the knowledge of bmac and r1a far and wide

>>153210

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_Jq3Rx9ejgc

>>153219

TOPKEK

>>153219

Post some hyperborea edits kek.

>>153176

Bhumihars are UC in our region and i can do nothing about it. They are fair, owns gigaton off lands and are the tallest.

>>152810(OP)

loll cringe asf

>>153225

8 foot tall vrillmaxxed hyperborean pleidian

>>153216

>chuk chuk sip sip

Zip me up when you're done anon.

>>153217

Neither, both are retarded. A baman who is born that short is doomed lmao. Norwegians while boasting excellent height, don't exactly live better life if we are speaking globally, with one in ten people being more depressed than an average bhachaner.

I would choose to be born as a Japanese due to their well designed society, minus the toxic work culture. They have arround same physique with slightly better metabolism. Ideally as an Ainu.

>>153227

>They are fair

This retardation of morons confusing geno as pheno needs to fucking die out. Then this exact bullshit went on when Jats oppressed Chamars in Punjab as well, despite Chamars out ranking the Jatt in Varna hierarchy.

How the fuck did retards ever came up with the idea that one's fair skin is really what magically happens decide who is the higher caste. How fucking disappointing yaar.

>>153230

>Norwegians while boasting excellent height, don't exactly live better life

Holy mother of cope.

He wants to be a 10 hour work day insectoid rather than a norwegian chad taking sauna every other day. Effects of too much anime and loose ma ka bhosda

>>153236

Abe chutiye, varna literally means colour. Shvetvarna - white, krishnvarna -black, neelvarna - blue, etc etc

It got co opted by your kaalu ancestors

>>153214

>The non-dysgenic brahmins don't care that much about all this bullshit, because they have other things going for them.

That's Copium kek, if this was true then castiesm wouldn't exist outside India. Feel free to explain why senior managers in 1st world nation feel the burning need do commit to castiesm.

>>153248

Retard, dysgenic doesn't mean poor.

>>153248

Your patrick bateman phase was better than whatever this is. Stop posting tranime, pajeet.

>>153230

yea thats what i told your randi mother but that broodmare just wont stop giving me the chuk chuk sip sip

>>153241

>Kaalu

Yaar bhangi XD

>norwegian chad

Yaar zip the norwegians up when you are done Pajeet.

>>153251

Anon, it's ok, you didn't choose how were born.

>>153252

>>153250

Never implied of is, yaar learn to read, despite your challenges it can't be that tough.

>>153251

>>153259

>Double posting

Yaar bhangi anon...

brahmeme jaraa idhar aana

https://bharatchan.com/board/b/thread/153125#post-153240

>>153260

yaar failed abortionjeet

>>153260

But you did...

> Feel free to explain why senior managers in 1st world nation feel the burning need do commit to castiesm.

>senior manager

>>153263

yaar chuk chuk sip sip rukwa apni maa ka pls

>>153268

>Implying senior managerial post strictly has to do with money and not administrative duties

... Yaar bhangi anon...

>>153270

>>153265

>Double posting again

... Yaar... Bhangi anon

>>153276

yaar kitna anal periods giryayega aasi baman

>>153285

>AASI

>Emoji Spam

>Saar I laugh at my own jokes

...Yaar Bhangi Anon ... tujhse na ho payega re.

>>153299

kitna cope karega failed abortionjeet