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>saar it will take 20 gorrillion years to take action saar

over for nothing ever happens fags.

>>90768(OP)

Wow. Mudi isn't playing this time around is he? iwt abeyance was announced during Pulwama too but not such visuals. Also Home minister just announced civil defense preparation. What's going to happen? Is pok coming?

>>90771

dont think so saar, it wont be much personally i think especially if we are talking about military action, mobilizing army will cost us in millions for no good reason.

Will this shutting down of dam affect pak in a major way

A nation that could not even reclaim the 3 most sacred temples of Kashi dedicated to Shiva, Vishnu and Bhairav wants to reclaim Pakistan occupied Kashmir.

India’s Indus water action is a mere decorative posturing

It will not impact Pakistan in the short run, but will erode diplomatic support that India holds in the west

Particularly without legislating foreign agent law and legally declaring Pakistan as an enemy state

>>90956

>Pakistan has secured approximately $16 billion in loan commitments from IMF

>$6 Billion in 2019 EFF

>In June 2023, to avert sovereign default, Pakistan secured another $3 billion Stand-By Arrangement

>In September 2024, IMF approved a new EFF for Pakistan amounting to $7 billion

yeah sure they do

>>90963

>>90964

If IMF continues with Pakistan loan deal

It will expose the complete collapse of Indian diplomacy under the Babu minister

Fact that Pakistan was able to exit FATF was itself a colossal failure of foreign policy under Modi government

India is supposed to stop this

even more blackpilling

>>90972

Not true. Pakistan might be struggling, but calling it a failed state is lazy analysis. It still has functioning institutions, international partnerships, and strategic value. The IMF deal, while tough, shows that global financial institutions still consider it salvageable. As for FATF, they didn’t get off the grey list because of some meme reason, they had to pass 34 action points and go through actual verification. If India had the diplomatic clout to block it, it would have. The fact that it couldn’t reflects limits in our foreign policy, not some imaginary Pakistani collapse.

>>90976

Yeah, and that’s the depressing part Pakistan’s economy is on life support, its reserves are a joke, and yet it still gets IMF bailouts, FATF clean chits. Meanwhile, India with all its economic weight can’t even stop a geopolitical basket case from walking out of sanctions. Moody’s casually reminding us that we have zero economic leverage over them just rubs it in. We’ve spent a decade posturing as a rising power, but when it comes to hard influence where it counts, we’re basically shouting into the void.

>>90974

>cuckolibrandus

Name calling won't get you anywhere mister, India does have problems which need to be acknowledged, perhaps my outlook on sites getting hard was more emotionally driven, but the point still remains

>>90967

Teri maa ko sariya plebbitbhangi

>>90979

Fair point. Foreign policy doesn’t operate in a vacuum it’s downstream of economic, industrial, and military strength. You can’t project power or set terms globally if you’re still debating over basic manufacturing and import dependencies. All the chest thumping doesn’t mean much when we lack the hard leverage to bend outcomes, even against a structurally weaker rival like Pakistan. It’s reminder that “vishwaguru” dreams don’t translate into real strategic clout without the material base to back them.

>>90988

your arguments are meaningless, cucks like you deserve sariyad with whole family, that's it.

>>90991

arguing for the sake of arguing, being an edgy contrarian

>>90987

You're missing the bigger picture here. Sure, Pakistan’s forex reserves are in bad shape, but let’s not act like that’s the only thing that matters. They still have strategic value, and despite all the issues you mentioned, they’ve managed to survive and even make diplomatic headway. Yeah, their CPEC project has faced setbacks, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s still a multi billion dollar initiative that involves Chinese investment and infrastructure, even if some projects have faced technical challenges. They’ve still got China’s backing and strategic importance in the region.

And about remittances, yes, it’s a huge part of their economy, but that doesn’t mean it’s some temporary lifeline. In fact, remittances are the fourth-largest source of foreign exchange for Pakistan, and in 2024, they brought in nearly $30 billion, which is a significant amount considering their economy’s size. The fact that the IMF is still willing to engage with them shows that they’re seen as a country with reform potential, even if it's slow.

Pakistan’s energy problems are real, but they still have an industrial base that’s worth something textiles, agriculture, and a growing IT sector, even if it’s not on par with India’s. Per capita energy consumption might be low, but they still manage to keep the lights on for most of the country. Plus, let’s not ignore the fact that their geopolitical location gives them leverage. The U.S. and China both have their reasons for keeping Pakistan stable whether it’s countering India’s influence or securing routes for Belt and Road initiatives.

And for all the “grey list” talk, Pakistan did the hard work to get out of it. They met 34 action points laid out by FATF, proving they’ve made significant progress, even if it’s inconvenient for some people to admit it. As for IMF conditions, yeah, they’re harsh, but they’re not new countries around the world face similar pressures. The common Pakistani might be suffering, but the reality is, Pakistan’s political maneuvering and strategic partnerships have kept them afloat longer than expected. We can argue about their flaws all day, but the fact that they're still around, despite everything, should make us question how well we’ve leveraged our own position.

>>91005

It’s easy to gloat when you focus on a single win like Article 370, but ignoring the broader picture isn’t helping the cause. Ok we removed 370, but what have we really gained from it long term, beyond more international scrutiny and internal unrest? The Kashmir issue is still alive and kicking, and the international community hasn’t exactly rolled over for us. Pakistan is not out of the game, and acting like we’ve “clapped” them because of a few military setbacks is wishful thinking.

And about the Navy? Let’s be honest, this “Modi can do anything” fantasy falls apart when you consider that Pakistan’s nuclear capability and the geopolitical fallout of any major military action would make it a disaster for India. The Balochistan independence dream sounds great in theory, but it’s been talked about for years and nothing’s changed, Balochs are like 5% of Pakistani population, it's insignificant in the longer run. There’s no easy path forward, and imagining we can just wipe them out with a single military strike is a dangerous delusion.

What's the logic behind muhh pok muh break into 4 countries?

What purpose does even breaking them have ? Atleast conquering baloch region have oil

>>91032

>Nobody works at 10pm saaar.

>>91018

I never denied Pakistan is in a pit it’s obvious their economic model has collapsed, energy infrastructure is failing, and CPEC fizzled into a cautionary tale. But you’re confusing Pakistan’s internal decay with a total loss of strategic relevance, and that’s where the cope starts. CPEC flopped, but China’s still there, the U.S. still plays them when needed, and regional actors haven’t written them off. Strategic value doesn’t disappear just because they’re in shambles. Look at Afghanistan, where Pakistan still has intelligence leverage, or the fact that its nukes alone force India to tread carefully despite all the chest-thumping. You think RAW ops and renaming LeT offshoots mean Pakistan's been declawed? All it means is they’ve adapted as have all failed terror states in history.

Also about India “offing people” in Rawalpindi, that’s more internet fantasy than confirmed doctrine. We’ve increased covert reach, but we haven’t turned Islamabad into Fallujah. If we had, we wouldn’t be constantly dealing with proxy attacks and infiltration attempts across the LoC. Meanwhile, removing 370 hasn’t internationalized Kashmir in India’s favor, it’s just frozen it with no real resolution, while Pakistan still uses it as a rallying point for its internal mess.

You say their future is hopeless, and sure, it's grim, but that doesn’t mean they’ll collapse the way you dream of. They’ve been “about to collapse” for 20 years now, and they’re still here, still getting IMF bailouts, still making diplomatic noise. India, on the other hand, has failed to turn its rising power into decisive outcomes no leverage over FATF, no control over global narratives on Kashmir, and no meaningful response to Chinese aggression in Ladakh. If their “optimistic future” is a nuke, ours is one PR disaster or economic slip away from mass unrest and international pushback. Neither of us is winning we’re just better at hiding our decline.

Its simple, The continuous tension with Pakistan is a threat not only to India’s national security but growing economy. India has to make its mind on Pakistan. Over 70 years of hot border is unsustainable, It is duty of India to do whatever it takes to dismantle Pakistan.

>>91026

>>91026

You're doing a great job writing fan fiction. Yes, Article 370's removal was symbolically massive, and integration steps like delimitation and infrastructure investment are happening but let’s not act like it magically solved everything. The ground reality still includes heavy militarization, political discontent, and a deep alienation among Kashmiris. You cite tunnels and trains like they erase decades of insurgency, separatism, and mistrust none of that has disappeared. Economic development doesn't overwrite political reality.

And bombing Balakot didn’t “call their nuclear bluff” it was a calibrated strike followed by days of de escalation because both sides knew exactly where the red lines are. You think the Indian Navy turning the Pakistani fleet into coral would come without consequence? Their nukes exist for exactly that scenario. Bluff or not, escalation could drag in major powers and destroy regional stability overnight.

As for Balochistan, the CIA has “been on it” since the Bush era. Yet here we are still no independence. It’s a low intensity insurgency, brutal and ongoing, but nowhere near state-breaking. If India had that kind of reach, we’d have seen real outcomes by now. Instead, we’re still guessing whether a few RAW ops even happened. And while you're celebrating river redirection, you’re ignoring that unilateral water moves on the Indus could invoke treaty disputes and even international backlash. We can’t afford to behave like a rogue state and expect global goodwill.

>>91065

who said war is a joke chamar? you are talking as if last 1000 years wasnt just endless wars.

>>91041

Yet you don't disprove any of what I am saying, infact just doubling down on my point that despite being such a shit country Pakistan is still a threat to india and our government does not hold the cards in stopping it, their is no point arguing with you anymore when your ideology or rather opinion on this matter is set on stone already, such discussions are futile and end in bad faith

This will be my last reply to this ceasepool of a thread

>>91076

>Taking an obvious sarcasm at face value

Smartest Bharat Chaner kek

>>91045

I pray not, I don't want to live like a miserable peace of shit for next 40 something years, where every state is as cold as kashmir, as dry as Rajasthan, as polluted as Delhi with civics sense of Bihar lmao. Make them fight old school, or I hope USA intervenes and confiscates Pak's weapon due to their non nuclear compliance.

>>90768(OP)

Why do these thread always start in /b/ and and not in /pol/ bruh.

>>91018

>>91005

>>91000

>>90991

Yaar Dyaush you are literally replying to some faggot using Deepseek to translate his chamar dialect to readable English kekda

Chill da

>>91104

Nope, its written by me only

>>91111

>>91076

apni maa se puch

>>91111

i can respond to all your points and pretty much BTFO you but the way you type shit is like a fucking redditor

You probably wouldn't understand it anyway. Also

>written by me only

Can you explain to us what kind of worm exists in your brain that makes you think Pakistan "strategically relevant"?

>>91222

Left right left right left right

So is war coming yaaro