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>white (((people))) are doing kanging over we wuz chinks now

Biggest indicator that western world is stagnating, every other factor is debatable.

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ROJR

VGPLAu

No.443

>>442(OP)

this guy is some columbian retard ignore him

>muh steppe

problem with these people is that they don't realize that steppe ancestry majority of which comes from brown people.

arrows are easy to draw on map but it's lame to care about

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fuCd7g

No.444

>>443

>columbian retard ignore him

He is also a writer of infowars. Though not specifically about him, it is just that kanging about other people or the past is mostly a trait of low self esteem third worlders. So it is noticable when they are also doing it.

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ROJR

VGPLAu

No.445

>>444

It's more than that, if you look into their leftist side and rw side - in west - both of which are very interested in denying the heritage of the people in the countries, through denying or re-writing with vapid generalization. Since pendulum has swung right we will see more such retardation.

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4nj0pf

No.446

>>442(OP)

Bad attempt at engagement farming, most Chinkis are behind the great firewall.

And Dyaush posting his retarded opinion again ofc, imagine him arguing with people in real life and walking out with a slave collar.

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RqXIWJ

No.450

>>443

>>443

were tarim mummies brown?

no? so what's the point of your post "anon"?

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VGPLAu

No.451

>>450

He is kanging over indo-european ancestry and co-opting others history, ignoring that he is wrong there in itself. Ignoring the fact that said indo-european ancestry in yamanya emerged from the exchanges with the CHG/Iran_N culture - brown people who contribute more than 40 to 50% ancestry along with all the cultural aspects too - there's paper on exchange with such.

Same Iran_N are also major contributor to the IVC and in fact CHG/Iran-N admix peaks in indian subcontinent. Kanging over this basis shows how ridiculous they sound.

Anonymous

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RqXIWJ

No.452

>>451

tarim mummies (who ren is referring to) were white, and indo-europeans evolved into white people as well, well before they invented the spoked wheel chariot on the sintashta horizon and started spreading the indo-european languages eastwards. so yes, your post still makes no sense.

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RqXIWJ

No.453

>>451

also it's not 40 to 50%, it's 35%. you seem too short for this discussion.

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ROJR

VGPLAu

No.454

>>452

Two things,

His very premise about 'chinese people' is incorrect since tarim mummies are not really the major cultural force behind the formation of their civilization - they were located at some western fringes associated with tocharians. Whatever mixing has happened over time is natural in any region but that doesn't give the ownership of civilization to random european or europe.

>white

It's meme term. More political than anything else. They use it as per their political convenience.

Tocharians are not same as Europeans of today. Nor were steppe groups. White skin or hair colors etc. don't make anyone european because the very reason of such is based on even older ancestry which spanned across eurasia.

>>452

>indo-europeans evolved into white people as well

Stop using white people term because i don't know about whom you are talking about. Modern day europeans have ancestry from steppe, local farmers and other hunter gatherer groups.

biggest indo-european group are in India - Indians. CHG or neolithic

>sinthastha

Modern day horse are not domesticated by them. Wheel chariot were norm in likes of ivc, indo-iranian region already. Earlier versions used mules, etc.

>>453

You are probably reading data of upper reaches were obviously EHG will be higher.

Steppe is mixing of EHG which itself emerged from ANE and WHG and CHG which has a good proxy neolithic iranians.

>According to Lazaridis et al. (2016), "a population related to the people of the Iran Chalcolithic contributed ~43% of the ancestry of early Bronze Age populations of the steppe."

https://reich.hms.harvard.edu/sites/reich.hms.harvard.edu/files/inline-files/8_25_2022_Manuscript1_ChalcolithicBronzeAge.pdf

This is also where cultural exchange happened. There's another paper about it.

Anonymous

ROJR

VGPLAu

No.455

This whole thing is rediculous because of this, there's not some one purified ancestry.

Most of our ancestors emerged from africa, some even mixed with our very distant cousins species.

There's entire thread of how ancient east eurasians emerged from africa went to india, china, central asia - as they moved and mixed with various groups they attained traits - lighter skin, eyes etc. etc.

If we are gonna kang, then i guess africans already won in this regard hence it's stupid entire thing.

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RqXIWJ

No.456

>>454

>white skin doesn't make you european

and? i never said they were european. but they did have white skin and nordic features

>modern horses, wheels

all modern horses descend from sintashta, as do SPOKED wheels, a term you left out totally by mistake

>chinks

are subhumans with over 40% ASEA beast ancestry, a component missing from yellow river farmers well into the iron age. there's only one civilisation in east asia and that's (yamato) japan.

>Steppe is mixing of EHG which itself emerged from ANE

doesn't fucking matter. tarim mummies were white, sintashta were white, and so were your andronovo conquerors. all else is grift.

Anonymous

ROJR

VGPLAu

No.457

>>456

>but they did have white skin and nordic features

>nordic

using modern day nation state terms for talking about history which spans above 20,000 years+ is so retarded.

yamnay who were mix of literally brown people contributing almost 50-50 ancestry with EHG. It is anything but 'white people' or 'nordic'.

Skin color or phenotype is result of older ancestry which goes beyond steppe or 'europe'. So entire point is retarded.

>>456

>all modern horses descend from sintashta, as do SPOKED wheels, a term you left out totally by mistake

Incorrect and outdated information with lots of holes in this theory - DOM2 lineage - modern day - horse domestication happened way too late to explain steppe(sintastha) using these for their early migration almost a difference of 500 years.

Various elemetns of chariots were already being used in local civilizations etc. Anyway this is parallel and unrelated topic to overall discussion.

>>456

>are subhumans with over 40% ASEA beast ancestry, a component missing from yellow river farmers well into the iron age. there's only one civilisation in east asia and that's (yamato) japan.

>subhumans

okay i can't have any further discussions with someone who has such opinions

>everyone was white

that term itself is political - means zilch. that is the actual grift.

Anonymous

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RqXIWJ

No.458

>>457

Lmao you're a cuck and certainly a chink yourself for how asshurt you are. it's over motherfucker, your game's up. may God bless bugland with nanjing all over again. may Kami Sama turn bugland into a parking lot and feed all bug babies to leviathan, Amen.

Anonymous

ROJR

VGPLAu

No.459

>>458

retard.

Closing my end of convo,

A glimpse at ancestry of tarim mummies. Deriving most of the ancestry from ANE, ancient north eurasians, ANE were result of Western Eurasian and Eastern Eurasian ancestors (these were the same group who contributed ancestry to likes of Tribals in andaman, east asian etc. etc.). Lady is one example of them. ANE also carried genes associated with blonde hair but they were anything like european or whatever by 'white' they mean.

>A genomic study published in 2021 found that these early mummies (dating from 2,135 to 1,623 BCE) had high levels of Ancient North Eurasian ancestry (ANE, about 72%), with smaller admixture from Ancient Northeast Asians (ANA, about 28%), but no detectable Western Steppe-related ancestry

This is anything but european. It's their own thing. In fact ANE ancestry has contribution from Basal east asian ancestors who also contributed to the ancestry of east asians - including chinese which means they literally have ancestral links if they have to explain this. Way stronger than likes of twitter shill.

Another thing is, ANE also eventually helps in the formation of EHG which along with CHG resulting from (Ancient Iranian Hunter Gatherers) mixed and resulted in Steppe or yamana people.

Steppe group - these themselves were darker, had black hair, brown hair and black eyes. But as they mixed with another set of populace, western hunter gatherers, farmers living in eastern europe they became ligheter skinned, blue eyes etc. were visible - this occurred over a time of 1000+ years.

And this is just discussion about genetic of a western most region of china, main civilization happened around yellow river with populace very similar to existing modern day chinese. Done.

Anonymous

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AL19ZY

No.465

>>459

>anything but european

when the fuck did i say they're european you pisswit. i said they had white skin and nordic features and you have no response to that except sorry ass semantics and off-topic bullcrap