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Kids are smaller and eat less.

School education is really basic and cheap unless you are after fancy schools. Also at the end of day schooling doesnt really matter. IQ is what determines a successful future.

Clothes

Can get second hand. One time investment and can be reused for the younger sibling.

people fail to realize this but again dehati school doesnt give you enough exposure to things happening out of your subhuman syllabus for subhumans, if you are even above avg you try to do other things but you realize you are just helpless cause there is no guidance and let me tell you you can only get exposure in a place where people are aware of things like olympiads national and international level, again after knowing you need lots of coaching and guidance that is not a big thing i think once you get to know what these exams are for but you definitely need someone who can introduce you to knowledge and different paths to life.

t.dehatischoolpassout

also, jee and neet are one thing, the syllabus is too vast and kills interest for anyone who isnt that studious but someone might find something interesting in those big ass schools, kek you might become atleast a little social there as there are less restrictions with foids and stuff

its simple, you dont need those schools necessarily with 10lpa fees or even 5lpa but where i live 1-2lpa is very common for anything decent and they are quite decent schools with some good crowd.

>>103629

Cope. 'Educayshun' is cope for low/average iq parents who cant come to terms with the fact that their child is average iq as well like them and crushing his soul by making him study hard wont work for long.

>>103628

>feral slum kids you retard.

Hurr durr you are an abusive parent if you dont get them the best toys and gadgets, fanciest clothes, dont let them have fun richfag lifestyle and put them in schools that look like nasa headquarters. Somehow entire generations grew up without them and managed to do just fine but you are abusing your kids.

>>103627(OP)

It's not money or food. It's time. These days you let women work 10h a day Mon-Fri how is she gonna raise little Ayan, breastfeed him, change his diapers & stay with him all the time at his beck and call?

>>103647

Just hire a fucking nanny. Whats the point of both man and woman working for double income if it cant even be used.

>>103627(OP)

That's how I was raised

>>103627(OP)

expensive food, education, marriage in case of girls, hospital charges etc

>>103735

>girls

Raising a girl is pure cuckery

>>103629

this is true as well.

All high fees schools actually force their students to participate in 100s of different types of extra-curricular activities like judo, horse riding, creating writing, painting etc stuff.

And by the time students reach class 100 they forcibly connect them to international level NGOs and similar societies for which they get high-sounding certificates, awards etc. They do this so that the student can show something in their CV while applying for international level colleges like Ivy League of USA or OX-Bridge of UK.

There IS A LOT of stuff going on in these high fees Tier-1 city schools that middle class normies of Tier-2,3 cities are completely unaware of.

Unfortunately middle class normies can only dream about IIT/NEET and government jobs as of now.

>>103738

>class 100

*class 10th

>>103735

>expensive food.

Kids eat very less. They dont need some fancy gymcel diet lol.

>marriage.

I am talking about kids not adults. Marriage is adult business. Parents dont have to spend on marriage.

>hospital charges.

Gormint hospitals are cheap. Tbh depends on parents. Parents who dont maintain hygienic environments and let their kids eat crap or roam around unsupervised getting into accidents have their kids fall sick and hospitalised all the time.

>>103732

>kids raised by nannies

Yaar heendu. Whats the point of having kids if they don't follow your will.

>>103741

proper nutritius food is expenisive af in Tier-1 cities. I bet you don't even eat Paneer and hung curd even once a week, I will not even ask you about eating meat based salad and other healthy stuff.

No wonder most of the Indians look malnourished.

>>103627(OP)

>School education is really basic and cheap unless you are after fancy schools.

Op probably a 40 lpa income house kid.

>>103741

>Gormint hospitals are cheap

Gormint hospitals are also absolute gutter.

>>103743

I eat lots of meat. The point is its inexpensive if home cooked and kids are small and eat very less. They arent some 5'10 gymcels working out lol who need huge quantities of meat.

>>103747

Perhaps in your state. In many states gormint hospitals are very good.

>>103748

the average salary of a city male is approx. 1 Lakh per month from all sources.

If you gonna spend Rs 7000 on feeding one member of the family then it would beacome expensive af.

Now add monthly school fees of 15-30,000 (for one kid) and car/home loans, rents and other monthly charges.

You will save nothing if you even more than 2 kids.

>>103752

Are you literal bhangi? Kek

You are essentially suggesting a bimaru lifestyle

>>103738

It doesnt depend on education lol. Upper class kids have it easier because they have higher iq on average inherited from parents as well as connections that gets them nice jobs. Money is a product of iq and connections not the other way around.

>>103752

>In many states

Many can mean anything. Talk in numbers.

>>103627(OP)

They aren't, you should try to have as manu children as possible, if you 3-4 children in 3-4 years then you won't even have to spend that much time with them, they will just play with each other all day and drink mamma's milk

>>103754

>average salary of a city male is approx. 1 Lakh per month from all sources.

Already told ya, bhachcels live in different reality.

>>103758

those things matter as well. If you interact with low iq bhangi tier parents on a daily basis who have no idea how the world works at a larger scale then you sure will loose many iq points in 20 years living with them.

But education (schools) matter a lot as well because they become a very big part of the life of a growing kid.

If you interact with kids of rickshawwaals and army soldiers or watchmen in your school on a daliy basis then you will loose many iq points here as well.

>>103647

women in most cases dont earn much, a man should easily be able to cover these costs, anyway women are provided with maternity leaves too so there is that as well

>>103766

thats what middle class is.

anything lower than 50k/month is considere poor and you can not have more than 1 kid at this salary considering you want to raise him properly and expect him to do greater things in life than you.

>>103757

Retard. I stated that taking measures to not get sick in the first place is ideal but gormint hospitals arent bad. You probably live in some corrupt bimaru shithole where gormint hospitals are horrible. There are really great clean well equipped gormint hospitals where i live that mog even private hospitals.

>>103632

education essentially ruins children, even then you can raise children, this isn't South korea where you need to systematically train your children in schools then coachings then colleges to make them better slaves, if you train your child for good abilities and provide them good nutrition in childhood itself then they will turn out higj iq (provided you were high iq as well)

just Simple study from books will help them

I have seen schools destroy children more then make them

>>103769

>anything lower than 50k/month is considere poor

>why indians say kids are expensive

Would you Please consult the graphs

>>103772

those are the high-fee schools where the newly urbanized rich send their kids. The parents of these come from Tier-3 districts or rural backgrounds and their kids are utterly mannerless like their parents. Degeneracy rates are very high in such schools. Children are generally segregated into different sections according to their family background and their academic performances in these schools.

>>103774

people who earn 60,000 and the people who earn 1,50,000 live a similar lifestyle in cities, eat same food and send their kids to same schools.

Thats all I want to say.

>>103769

>you want to raise him properly and expect him to do greater things in life than you.

Lmao yaar if you keep your kids healthy and give them love its more than enough. Kids dont require money for 'proper' upbringing. If you are a midwit expecting your kid to do something great is retarded cuz he has likely inherited being midwit as well.

>>103633

Exactly, also most problems associated with children such as them crying or them shitting themselves are a result of modern shitty lifestyles, since kid's bodies aren't pre adjusted to this shit they violently react against it by crying, vomiting or shitting, overtime obviously this changes, no baby animal in nature is seen performing such activities, in fact baby primates are very strong grabbers and can grab on to their mama without any issues and help from baby carriers, even mother's enjoy this naturally

>>103775

yes that's why I said that schools do more harm than good, you risk sending your child to such shithole where he gets ruined by other little shits or your send him to become a systematic slave in other tier 1s

>>103777

Its just that they are 5% of population. In any part of world such percent would count as rich among.

their are other ways of educating your child too but the parents need to be more involved for that

anyway even fancy schools have very high level of degeneracy where kids get into smoking and all by the time they have hit puberty, so anyway it doesn't matter how much you are paying

and dont even get me started for girls... >>103786

>>103783

the wise parents chose the traditionally well regarded schools for their children after doing proper research. There are many schools in Tier-1 cities where the admission seats are booked 4-5 years in advanced. Getting admission in such schools is EXTREMELY tough and these are the schools from where almost every student passes out with 90%+ in 12th class and gets admitted at Ivy League, Ox-Bridge for higher studies.

>>103789

and again, even those schools aren't immune to degeneracy, we have had 20 lakh p/a school goers on bhach describe those places

In both cases you gamble over the fact that your child has internal morals and determination and becomes a book nerd or teacher's pet and stays away from harming elements of school

>>103784

There are a LOT of poor Indians anon. The lower class is significantly larger in popoulation than middle class relatively speaking. Things are not as worse in western countries.

>>103767

this is true, I agree, but there is no middle point here, the alternative is almost as bad if not worse

>>103792

well, nothing is COMPLETELY immune to degeneracy in that case.

Even if you send you kid to a sanskrit pathshala where they teach to chant vedas and where its compulsary to keep a shikha, we have news from such pathshalas about senior students raping cows and teachers molesting kids.

Realistically you place your bets on a school having a past track record of highest percentage of achievers.

>>103798

you are risking it both ways, the alternative is just as bad if not worse, also you are paying a lot more

obviously ideally you would self educate your children in early years (easy job) and then they will gradually start learning by themselves from books and all, but since We need "degrees" to get validated this isn't possible

Anyway schools or teachers hardly play any role in a child's success

>>103789

Funnily these are the kinds of school that interview the parents and look into their professional backgrounds lol. These schools select for high iq kids of high iq parents so their results are not surprising.

>>103800

exactly so why pay extra if the end result would be the same? you just have to hope your child doesn't interact much with the kids their, this is easy if your child stays and studies with siblings and cousins>>103801

>>103803

yep, its tough to get your kids into these schools.

But politicians still get a pass.

ultimately the best solution is to have many siblings and cousins for your child, this will ensure that they get interaction with only high iq people or people from same background

>>103735

Bhen ke lode Ladko ki Shadi free mein ho jaati hai kya? Gold, Dresses, Khana peena or 70 kharche. Aaj kal Ladki wallon se jyada kharcha hota hai or kuch dahej bhi nahi milta.

>>103807

>exactly so why pay extra if the end result would be the same?

you maximize the chances. There are greater chances that you kid will become a degenerate or a non-functioning religious autist (like trad hijabis) if you send them to a regular school as compared to a schools having a great track record in past.

These chances differ SIGNIFICANTLY and wise concerned parents will NEVER take risks regarding the education of their children.

just watch this interview to get a idea about how the "wise concerned parents" really think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nePiecHk8BA[embed]

>>103818

bhai dahej mein recover ho jaata hai.

>>103627(OP)

Maybe in your Bimaru BPL circle. Middle class ka tel nikal jata hai bachha paalne mein. Private school ki fess bhot jyada hai ab compared to 90s or 00s. Every other day there is some gandu co curricular activity.

Uske baad jaise hi 9th 10th mein hoga bachha to coaching ka kharcha suru. Uske baad agar government college nahi mila toh private ki fees sun k hagg dega. I am seeing how much stressed out Pajeet parents become when their kids grow up.

DON'T HAVE A KID IN THIS SHITHOLE UNLESS YOU'RE A POOR DEHATI OR UPPER CLASS.

>>103633

Raising kids in dehaat will raise scarcity mindset dehati jeets

>>103821

The biggest predictor of success in life is IQ followed by conscientiousness.

In US if a person could choose to either be born in a wealthy family but not have high iq vs choosing to be born high iq but in a poor household, his chances of success in life are significantly higher in the latter scenario.

--The Bell Curve (Charles Murray)

>>103844

Cope. Biological realities are universal.

>>103841

IQ is a result of both hereditary (parents, caste) and environmental (school) circumstances

>>103821

ultimately it depends on child's own morals and how you raised them in early ages from till 4-5 years of age before sending it to school, maybe their is 2-3% deviation but that too is only caused by the first factor

>strict

I doubt if their is significant difference in strictness of either schools, both discipline your children systematically, perhaps cheapers schools use violence too so that's definitely bad but end result for both is to make your child disciplined for wage slaving later on in life

>self educating is hard

it's as hard as for the b. ed pass teaching your child in schools, lets not act as if 90% of children dont give attention in class and ultimately are taught by someone else only and still end up passing with decent grades , most parents are indeed overqualified to teach their children

>>103848

the environmental you are reffering to is nutrition mostly

>>103822

>socialisation

that's why I offered the cousins and siblings solution, wtih those children and parents you know how good or bad they are, you can easily ask the school to make your child study in same class as his cousins or children

in most cases such connection and socialisation is enough

Anyway most people build actually valuable connections later on in life and school frens just stay as a part of memories , most people don't even contact them once they are seprated in different classes

>>103741

most kids don't get hospitalised, I am 19 and I have never even been to a serious hospital for my own treatment, at max they would buy me some cheap tablets or pills for pain

and yes your right if kids are fed gutter food they end up getting sick more often

>>103858

a kid of two noble prize physicist parents raised in mumbai slum will turn out to be a taxi driver. At best he will secure a low salary IT job.

>>103858

nutrition matters but still is not as big as the "social envirnoment" part

and anyway equation ejewcation and serious medical help is a logical fallacy, if you can't afford one time treatments for your child then you should not be having children in first place, these are much different to schoold and all which leech you off for ages

>>103864

that's why I offered the solution of interaction with family members in joint family only

>>103867

I don't agree, if your child is already getting ample amount of socialisation from early days with his family members and other cousins/siblings then they will not feel as much need to form extra friendships since they already have enough "friends"(even that is something I would speak about but lets keep it related to the topic for now)

as for forming connections, ultimately it depends on your status, if you are successful or bring something on the table on your own then people would naturally talk to you, your socialisation is already developed by interacting to your own family, it's not hard

>>103868

comparing ejewcation and medical help***

>>103876

>that's why I offered the solution of interaction with family members in joint family only

?? did i missed something or your ip changed ?

>>103851

>>103860

Yaar bimaru. Thank god i live in a well developed state with good health infra and not a bimaru shithole.

>>103926

which state do you exactly live in ?

>>103848

80% of iq is purely genetics. High iq parenting is the environmental factor not school.

>>103878

I replied it to other anon here>>103876

>>103858

This

>>103867

You dont need school for socialization unless you live in woods or some area where noone else has kids. Back in my day we hung out with neighbourhood kids. School is horrible for socialization. You just sit on ass all day barely get time to have fun with friends.

>>103863

This yaar. Kids being hospitalized often is a sign of crappy parenting or keeping them in over sanitized environments that weakens their immunity.

>>103966

any in my case i had 3 siblings of my own + 10 cousins for father's side and additionally mother's side of family with another 12 kids living on 40 km away from us, it almost felt wierd to go out or invite friends when I already had so many actual friends who will be with me for entire life time lol

>>103975

trvke

>>103864

>a kid of two noble prize physicist parents raised in mumbai slum will turn out to be a taxi driver. At best he will secure a low salary IT job.

Lol. Its completely the opposite. Adoption and twin studies have clearly established the high heritability of iq. The only factor that will stunt him are malnutrition and infections. If you will control for that variable he will absolutely rock. Otoh if a child of low iq slum dwellers is adopted by a rich family he will just gain a few points at best despite the best nutrition and care.