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Anonymous

DL

OvsXzo

No.307642

I just found out my caste is Taga (Tyagi Muslim). Can any Bhacel tell me more about it? I want to know more about my lineage.

Anonymous

IN

0uZWcS

No.307644

>>307642(OP)

Are you hindoo or mosleem?

Anonymous

DL

OvsXzo

No.307648

>>307644

Muslim

Anonymous

IN

b7Ha2E

No.307654

>>307642(OP)

Zlutty

Anonymous

IN

i01uOT

No.307661

>>307642(OP)

All Dalli NCR people are rapebabies, all type of Dalli NCR castes have been raped for over 700 years

Anonymous

IN

ulvx2j

No.307662

>>307648

Based. So do you marry in your own caste?

Anonymous

DL

OvsXzo

No.307672

>>307662

I don't know, but both my mother and father come from the Taga caste.

Anonymous

IN

IJmYRu

No.307675

>>307642(OP)

youre a descendant of al zutt semen

Anonymous

DL

OvsXzo

No.307678

I found this profile about this caste. Is it true, Bhacels?

https://joshuaproject.net/people_groups/print/17687/IN

Anonymous

DL

OvsXzo

No.307683

>>307675

I'm not a sandn1gger.

Anonymous

DL

OvsXzo

No.307692

>>307661

Apparently, Taga Muslims are mostly from Uttar Pradesh, and their main language is Hindi. Traditionally they were farmers, and they actually descend from Tyagi Brahmins who converted to Islam centuries ago. Some sources say they lost their priestly status after conversion, but still kept their land and local influence.

Anonymous

ARYA

vUHuc2

No.307703

>>307642(OP)

>I just found out my caste is Taga (Tyagi Muslim).

Sure, but only because your ancestors were all Dwija like me. I have absolute zero respect for you Muzzie subbos. Anyways

Taga, comes for the word "Tyaga", one of the prominent "Vaishya" clans who had close and strong relation with Kshatriya community. As a result they came under the Dwija (Upper Caste) Hindus.

They were abundant land owners and as a result formed bulk of grain taxes for the Kshatriya during seiege. Part of the reason they went by Tyaga due to how actively they supplied the soldiers and Kshatiryas with grains on their own personal belief.

They were also well known for their contribution towards Brahmin community as well as financial contribution towards the architecture of North Western regions as well as Central North region in past. It was under Islamic Influx some of the groups converted to Islam, and the surname that was "Tyaga" changed to "Taga" accordingly.

You must be wondering how the term Tyagi then became a thing? During British era a lot of the said group decided to basically consider their Varna as Brahmin, in hopes of more prestige. It kind of backfired, as this spoiled their dynamic with other Dwijas, and even other Vaishya. But it did nothing to shake their land holding status or their UC status.

>Can any Bhacel tell me more about it? I want to know more about my lineage.

Taga(Muslim) and Tyaga (Hindus) both have shared origin, with Tyaga (Tyagi) being a little bit purer due to them not having the concept of the Ummah, among them. Even before the changes their surname to Tyagi, they were predominantly vegetarians, coming under the same groups of region as me "Gauda". Naturally a few of them do eat meat.

They would normally have clans divided into two core categories. Dasah and Bisah, with Dasah being one who allowed widows to remarry into other Tyagi family or Bisah who prohibited the marriage of widows entirely.

Lingusticslly they spoke Khadi Boli, Kauravi and Haryanavi, with some speaking language from region of Rajasthan. A very few of them even had good times with Gujjara region (Gujarat and the Rajasthan) so they would speak Gujjari as well. A lot of them adapted to Urdu, as Taga subdivision took place.

>TLDR

Before your ancestors decided to fall from Dwij status they were land owner and Upper Caste Hindus. Some may claim they were Brahmin but that is simply not true, regardless they were still upper caste. (This is why you will see Tyagi who claim to be Brahmin all having different story on why they don't do Rituals and why their rituals all vary from one region to another, as most of it was adapted during British period)

Anything else, or we can go back to Al Zutting you?

Anonymous

ARYA

vUHuc2

No.307704

>>307692

>they actually descend from Tyagi Brahmins

<Fell for the meme

:rofl: Yaar pajeet lmao

Anonymous

ARYA

vUHuc2

No.307705

>>307675

:rofl: Yaar obligatory Zutting, kek.

Anonymous

ARYA

vUHuc2

No.307708

>>307692

>Taga Muslims are mostly from Uttar Pradesh, and their main language is Hindi.

Bol mat diyo west UP me, pit jayega lmao. The core language of Tyaga and Taga was Khadi bol and Kauravi, Taga subcaste came much later and they actually adapted urdu before they even adapted to Hindi that came from Shauraseni.

Anonymous

DL

OvsXzo

No.307739

>>307703

>>307704

>>307705

>>307708

Thanks for taking the time to explain all that. I didn't know much about the historical side of the Taga/Tyagi background before. The connection between the Hindu and Muslim branches and how the term shifted makes more sense to me now.

The more I learn about these things, the more it feels like belief itself is a trap. All of this guilt tripping and false flagging their own history just to stay on top. I don't like it.

Anonymous

ARYA

vUHuc2

No.307747

>>307739

>All of this guilt tripping and false flagging their own history just to stay on top

Yaar don't think much about it. Every caste has done this in past. So Shudra, Vaishya, Kshatriya even legit Brahmins have done this shit. The faith is not the issue, the issue is fragility of human moral and lack of satisfaction with one's role in life.

Brahmins used to be scholars and priests, and if you did a great jaab you became a sage. Now so these retards are kanging as if we have been war lords and shiet, muh badmosh baman and Shiet.

Anonymous

ARYA

vUHuc2

No.307750

>>307747

Yes I cringe a lot when I see Bamans kang the same way Jaats do. No hate on Jaats, but such Justification of Bamans makes me want to kill myself. Abe sab Jhoomer Bamans thodi sharma karlo pajeeto, accha nahi lagta hum sab pe.

Anonymous

IN

vSADmk

No.307770

>>307642(OP)

Tyagis are basically Bhumihars of west UP, they are Brahmin tier.

Anonymous

IN

jDHoCL

No.307772

>>307642(OP)

My grandmother is from a Tyagi family and they're Bamans from Haryana.

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