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Dowry should be legal

Primarch of the first legion

IN

0SOnu1

No.7623

Women are liability in society they live on men money and are saying dowry is bad when a man is taking the load out of thier father head and onto themselves

Lester The Molester

UN

Wz4gpI

No.7624

>>7623(OP)

ALL FACTS

Lester The Molester

UN

Wz4gpI

No.7625

>>7623(OP)

<Women are liability

<aying dowry is bad when a man is taking the load out of thier father head and onto themselves

100%

Chad_Bharatiya_Anon

IN

epWWas

No.7626

Dumb take, Here's why -

1. Dowry turns marriage into a transaction, not a partnership. When families start pricing grooms, women stop being seen as people and start being seen as liabilities. That mindset feeds abuse, harassment and even violence when expectations are not met. A society that claims to value family should not run marriages like shady business deals.

2. Dowry reinforces gender inequality at every level. It tells girls from birth that their parents must pay to get rid of them, while boys are treated as investments. This warps upbringing, education choices and self worth. You cannot talk about progress while keeping a system that openly ranks one gender above the other.

3. Dowry corrodes moral and social values. It encourages greed, debt and social pressure, especially on poorer families who try to keep up appearances. Instead of focusing on compatibility, character and mutual respect, the conversation becomes about cash, cars and status. That is social decay, not tradition.

Now about women modernizing and having freedom. Let women wear what they want, work where they want and live how they want because they are autonomous human beings, not cultural property. Modernization is not moral decay. It is simply access to choice, safety and opportunity. When women have rights and freedom, societies become healthier, more educated and more stable. Restricting women has never made a civilization stronger, only more fearful.

And before someone screams culture, Hinduism itself was never anti rights. Ancient Hindu society had women philosophers like Gargi and Maitreyi debating metaphysics with men. The concept of Shakti literally places feminine power at the center of the universe. Ardhanarishvara represents divinity as both male and female in one form. Women had stridhan which was their own property, and swayamvara where they chose their partner. This is not fringe stuff, it is core philosophy.

So yeah, opposing dowry and supporting women’s freedom is not western brainwashing. It is closer to both basic ethics and the deeper spirit of Hindu thought. If anything, the regressive parts are the later social distortions. Think about it instead of rage posting.

Primarch of the first legion

IN

0SOnu1

No.7627

>>7623(OP)

Women don't pay as much as taxes as men still they have seperate metro and train section. Plus ladli bhen yojna and all that when the one paying for that is men. We should separate men and women society and put them into separate eco system like we do to other animal

Primarch of the first legion

IN

0SOnu1

No.7628

>>7626

>Women are not seen as people

Which they are not

>They are looked down as liability

Which they already are when dowry is banned. Also we treating women like people is why justice system is fucked. Women have caused more false cases like rape and fake dowry to so much extent that no one believes them.

Chad_Bharatiya_Anon

IN

epWWas

No.7629

>>7627

honestly it is a pretty interesting demographic puzzle when you look at it through a structural lens. the whole system historically treated men as nothing more than a social security plan, right? the preference for male children was basically just an economic survival tactic because the labor market was so skewed and the social safety nets were nonexistent. it turned sons into these utilitarian objects expected to provide a return on investment for decades.

if you normalize women in the workforce, you effectively double the human capital without needing more bodies, which logically makes a massive population less of a necessity. having a leaner population like keeping it under 500 million would probably alleviate the insane pressure on infrastructure and resources. a 1:1 gender ratio combined with a smaller, more highly skilled population would shift the culture from "quantity for survival" to "quality of life."

it is wild how much of our social baggage just comes down to outdated economic dependencies.

Anywas Here's my plan for reducing population while making india developed : https://bharatchan.com/board/pol/thread/7337

Chad_Bharatiya_Anon

IN

epWWas

No.7630

>>7628

> Women are not seen as people, Which they are not ...

How the fuck do you think thats not a problem, they are indians too

Jeet what about your sister and mom

The only people we should see as inhumane is people from our neighbouring countries (except nepal and bhutan)

> They are looked down as liability, Which they already are when dowry is banned

Dowry is banned ik but do you genuinely think thats implemented

I havent seen it irl due to my (fortunately) priveledged background but i have still heard about irl cases and its still kinda prevalent

> Also we treating women like people is why justice system is fucked. Women have caused more false cases like rape and fake dowry to so much extent that no one believes them.

Holy fucking male incel mentality

It is objectively true that a massive chunk of reported rape and dowry cases end up being total fabrications, but that is usually because the only women with enough social capital to actually walk into a station and file a report are already coming from privileged backgrounds. we are looking at a judicial system that needs a complete overhaul because it is genuinely rotten to the core.

at the same time, people ignore that probably 70 or 80 percent of actual, rape and dowry harassment never even make it into the official stats. we have to fix the false reporting and the massive under reporting simultaneously if we ever want a functional society. our global reputation is honestly in the gutter because people keep labeling us the rape capital. even though that is technically false info since the usa and south africa have higher recorded rates, and plenty of islamic countries have legal frameworks that basically permit it, the reality on the ground here is still grim. sexual harassment is way too widespread and needs a prompt systemic fix.

the ultimate metric is simple. until a woman feels perfectly fine walking outside alone at 1am, we haven't done enough. we need to gut and rebuild the police, the courts, and the security services, but more importantly, we have to fix the collective mindset.

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Chad_Bharatiya_Anon

IN

epWWas

No.7631

ayy nvm , just saw a few grammar mistakes , so here's the correction .....

>>7630

how the fuck do you think that's not a problem? they’re indians too. jeet, what about your sister and your mom? the only people we should see as inhumane are people from our neighboring countries, except for nepal and bhutan.

dowry is banned, i know, but do you genuinely think that's actually implemented? i haven't seen it in real life because of my fortunately privileged background, but i’ve still heard about actual cases and it’s clearly still prevalent.

Primarch of the first legion

IN

0SOnu1

No.7632

>>7629

>>7629

>if you normalize women in the workforce

Then the ROI is in negative. The taxes working women pay is not even double digit in percentage compared to men. The return is much higher then the pay they give to government, how ? You may ask well it is obvious the extra cash come from men

Primarch of the first legion

IN

0SOnu1

No.7633

>>7631

>>7631

>dowry is banned, i know, but do you genuinely think that's actually implemented?

So you think men are doing it illegally so does that give you the card to do it legally?

Garhwali_incel

UK

PGop6W

No.7634

>>7623(OP)

legal or not but it is still very popular in india.

the form has changed now dowry is called "gifts" etc. anyways i don't think dowry gonna bring enough money to balance what u hv to spend on femoids.

Primarch of the first legion

IN

lV93ep

No.7635

>>7634

Primarch of the first legion

IN

0LI2eD

No.7638

>>7634

We should create a subspace of women, so men society will not be in regression

Anonymous

IN

XphW9v

No.7639

>>7623(OP)

>Women are liability in society

Agreed

>they live on men money and are saying dowry is bad

Also agreed

>when a man is taking the load out of thier father head and onto themselves

The only issue is, if you willingly take that load, then it is not your place to complain. Just find a woman who won't burden your life. If not, you are better off without a food in your life. It's actually simpler than many make it.

I don't know why all the sub75 IQcels needed movements to figure this out on themself. If she doesn't bring much value to your life, and if the value is not backed up monetarily, then just don't marry them. It is not that complicated.

Anonymous

IN

XphW9v

No.7640

>>7634

The idea of dowry itself if kind of retarded, since men fail to entirely remove subpar women far far below their lookmax entirely. Because of the one and only thing that matters. Dowry. It is simply a better choice for some men and foids to never breed at all.

Primarch of the first legion

IN

qaNZD4

No.7643

>>7639

>Just find a woman who won't burden your life.

Lmao, what's next find a Pegasus who shits gold

Primarch of the first legion

IN

qaNZD4

No.7644

>>7640

Dowry is needed because you are as women are burden and you are getting a man now. So now you should be grateful and give him money

Anonymous

IN

HQvdse

No.7646

>>7626

>women philosophers like Gargi and Maitreyi debating metaphysics with men

Yeah but did they win though

Anonymous

ARYA

TYjw5V

No.7657

>>7643

>what's next find a Pegasus who shits gold

If you are incapable of finding a woman who can not make your life better, that is just kind of a you problem. No one is pushing any of us to marry, I always wonder why these kind of vestigial meme about women being burden to life as a species found a way to bhach.

Anonymous

ARYA

TYjw5V

No.7658

>>7644

Dowry is only good if we are extremely poor and broke. In end Dowry is fundamentally about how much woman is marrying under her aukad. I do think women make life difficult but dowry is, was and always would be retarded. Same as the man having to give her, half his property after divorce, both of them are retarded.

Femanon

TR

gWHX4H

No.7659

dowry is bad because i dont want to pay for marriage. all costs are on the man

Primarch of the first legion

IN

hm+PV8

No.7675

>>7646

This

Primarch of the first legion

IN

hm+PV8

No.7676

>>7657

>It's a you problem

>Someone being a retard is a you problem anon

Mannn this yonipuja desh is fucked beyond hell

Primarch of the first legion

IN

hm+PV8

No.7677

>>7658

>Women make life difficult

Hence they need to pay for being a liability

Primarch of the first legion

IN

hm+PV8

No.7678

>>7659

gtfo foid

Primarch of the first legion

IN

TXsNa1

No.7720

>>7623(OP)

Women need to be in their own created society not in men. I mean isn't that they want

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