Yaar is OBC teli baniye - aur iski party- ko hatao warna desh aur Hindu dono ki gand maarke suja dega ye marne se pehle. It's time Bharat gets ruled by a true brigadier-pratap- equivalent kshatriya Chad with a real Chanakya baman chad by his side and bring this nation back to glory!

>>74977(OP)

Lund kuch nahi hoga ab india ek muslim nation banega allahu akbar

>>74978

Heendu nation se to achha hee hoga, atleast logo mai unity rahegi

>>75088

>unity

>in muslim nation

Anon I..

How insensitive do you have to be to make ghibli ai art of dead people? Can only imagine BJP IT celiya uploading pic on on ChatGPT and saying “please make this Ghibli art”

>>75090

yes, region aur language wars bhee khatam ho jayenge

>>75100

Dayu reduce the salary of this paki supporter >>75127

>>75119

Anon I..

>>74977(OP)

>OBC teli baniye

Ye to literally mere caste hai

Baniyas shall inherit the earth

>>74977(OP)

military dictatorship ftw, indian army is pretty based if you ever talk with a RR guy

>>75143

Pehle apne baap ka buisness aur Biwi ki chut toh inherit karle

>>75164

Ok fag

You will not get anymore interest free loans from us

>>75167

>implying that they give that in the first place

Anon I..

>Teli

>Baniya

Teli kabse baniye hone lage ??

>>75180

I think it's a sub caste

>>75184

Its not, Teli might come under Vaishya varna (traders) but Baniyas are a different caste

Same way As khatris come under a Vaishya (varna) but different caste

>again with caste kanging

dont you ever get tired

>>75190

not kanging, just clearing doubyst

>>75193

doubt**

>>74977(OP)

There are zero kshtriya castes in India.

I don't know but whenever I search the background of so-called kshtriya jatis they are always disputed. Even khtaris are not kshtriyas but baniya larpers.

>>75201

Khatris are veru distinct to baniyas, they are Vaishyas (traders) yes, but baniya is a different community altogether

>>75241

But my point still stands.

There are ZERO (0) kshtriyas in India.

Maybe Parshuram did kill all of them lmao.

>>75244

rajputs, Marathas, even some jaats, Kammas, Rajus etc

manny were there

Definitely there are kshatriyas in India too

>>75246

>Rajput

>Maratha

>Jaat

You're kidding right? These are all shudras lodu

>>75270

Kshatriya means martial castes, Rajputs and many maratha castes fit that

Rajputs weren't ever classified shudras , where you got this info from??

>>75275

>Kshatriya means martial castes

Nice b8 dear.

All of the castes you mentioned are of lower caste origins who in mediaval times started kanging as kshtriyas

>>75283

that's literally what it means, if you meant vedic kshatriyas, then there are many rajput lineages which trace back to them..

>>75287

>rajput

>trace back to vedas

This has to be b8 right? Or a you a rajchut yourself who seriously believes this? Either way kill yourself lodu

You're a shudra.

>>75289

vedic kshatriyas not vedas, anyway you are too retarded to understand the concept of Varna by work, this will be my last reply to (You),have a nice day

>>75292

>Varna by work

Good one rajchut.

You'll never be kshtriya. (YWNBK)

I think I should check war dates in Bhavishya Malika

>>75100

>but it is serving its purpose

It is not. It looks so corny. I you cannot feel dread radiating from the image like a real pic.

>>75275

No. Kshatriya means ruler/king/nobility. Even a foot soldier is martial but not a kshatriya. Shudras were often recruited as low ranking foot soldiers in armies while the nobility acted as commanders and cavalrymen. Some shudras managed to rise ranks and become kings themselves as seen in history.

>>75241

bhai khatri bania ji hote hai west punjab ke.

Wani bhi baniya hote hain Kashmir ke.

Vanniyar bhi baniya hote hain south india ke.

Banik bhi baniya hote hain Bengal region ke.

aur jinka bhi surname -ani se end hota hai woh bhi Baniye hi hote hain Sindh ke.

>>75395

>khatri bania ji hote hai west punjab ke.

>Wani bhi baniya hote hain Kashmir ke.

>Vanniyar bhi baniya hote hain south india ke.

All of those are Vaishyas (traders) not baniyas, infact you stated names of more non-baniya Vaishya communities kek

>ani surnmae

Nope its juts a suffix used by Sindhi savarnas, it just signifies ancestry, for Example Irish/Scotts used Mc prefix that also means descendants of, Ani suffix is used by Brahmins too

>>75413

bhai baniya ek occupational caste hai. Unke ancestors differnt males they aur isiliye unke Y-haplogroups bhi bohot different hote hain.

Unlike Brahmins and other Aryan castes jinke Y-Dna majorily R1a1a hotay hain kyunki inke ancestors ek bohot chhhotay se ancient aryan tribe se belong karte thay.

Baniya bhi Yadavo, Mallah, Bhangi, Sunar, Naai ki tarah ek occupational caste hai jiska "Jaat" (birth) se kuch lena dena nahi tha. Modern times mein ye jaatiya doosri real jaatiyo ki tarah solidify ho gyai hain aur endogamy practise karne lagi.

>>75430

abey kuch bhee bole jaa rha hai, jaake kisi khatri ya baniye se puchhle,

>muh ancestry and genetics

Khatris are closer to Local Jatts and Rajputs than Baniyas who are from Guj, Raj, Haryana region kek

>by birth

Baniya is a community which specialised in trades of certain goods, they were all just clustered under (Vaishya Varna) as all of then did trade

this did not mean all of them were same kek

>modern time endogamy

Nope most communities practised that earlier as well, what got solidified was their Varna in society, ie a person born in Baniya community will become a Trader only

>>75275

Kshtariya means warrior and ruling families. Jaats aren't even part of indian culture. Marathas are literally shudra. Man- nvm fuck this shit. Open source religion behnchod.

>>75445

anon asked about Kshatriya communities, these communities had rulers and kings at some point which makes them Kshatriya (by role)

>>75450

No it doesn't, lmao.

There are zero (0) kshtriyas in India.

>>75454

>The word "Kshatriya" comes from the Sanskrit root "kshatra" which means:

>Power

>Rule

>Dominion

>So Kshatriya literally means "one who possesses or protects kshatra (rule/authority)" — essentially, a protector or ruler.

Even chatgpt is smarter than you kek

>>75458

Lmao this (by the way I am a nigger) thinks Modi is kshtriya because he's the ruler

Pakka rajchut hoga yeh vope kar rha hai itna.

You will never be kshtriya (YWNBK)

>>75088

He doesn't know

>>75442

>Khatris are closer to Local Jatts and Rajputs than Baniyas

maine kab manaa kiya.

Khatris originally baniya he thay par sikhsim ke baad se unhone alag identity banaa ki hai.

Dekh bhai asli baat ye hai ki "KHATRI" ek KSHATRIYA caste thi jo Hindu shahis ke time pe rule karti thi.

Fir Musalmaan aaye aur Khatris ko Gandhar region se eastwards push kar diya.

Ab woh central Punjab mein aa gaye jahaan "ARORA" jo ki originally ek Baniya gotra tha Sindh ka unhone inn ARORAS ko Khatri caste mein include kar liya.

Modern time mein zyadaatar Khatri ko hain woh Khatri males + Arora females ke bacche hain. Guru Nanak jo ki 'BEDI' gotra ka tha woh bhi Arora tha par uska bhi aaj kal sab log khatri bataate hain.

Originally Dhai ghar Khatris Kapoor, Khanna aur Malhotra hote they bas. Baad mein inke gotra ka expansion hota gayaa jaise jaise Aroras include hotay gaye.

Isiliye Khatris ka Y-Dna majority R1a1a hai aur Baniyo ka nahi.

>>75463

>"KHATRI" ek KSHATRIYA caste thi

Lies.

>>75464

poora post padh. Arora baniya they jo ki aaj majority apne ko khatri bolte hain

>>75241

Clearly. Banias are fat ugly money hungry shitheads who sit at their baap ka galla all day and Khatris are good looking, sincere and honest people that can be trusted.

>>75466

Par mai bol rha hu khatri kabhi kshtriya the hi nahi.

Them claiming kshtriya status is literal yadav are yahudis tier claim.

>>75463

>Khatris

Yep they were distinct all along, Khatris and Rajputs have high frequency of R1a1a1b2-Z93 branch.

In contrast Baniya groups have more of L, H, J2, and G haplogroups

>Arora

Aroras ka origin Aror (modern-day Rohri, Sindh) se hai isiliye surname "Arora".

Lekin ye log na to Aggarwal/Maheshwari jaise Vaishya-Baniya groups ke under aate hain,

aur na hi unka traditional jaati structure Baniya jaise organized guilds (gotras) mein tha.

>Khatris and Aroras are distinct

yep spot on

>>75467

Have you never met a khatri in your life? Sab chor hai saale

>>75464

pehle thee lodu, Khatri literally is derived from word Kshatriya

>>75475

>Yadav are yahudis tier

Similar sounding words doesn't mean they come from same root or origin

>>75467

bhai khatri sabhe bade two-faced hotay hain

>>75480

nope, and stereotypes about baniyas are wront too

Both are absolute bros

>>75483

wrong**

>>75475

tu khatri hai kya

>>75472

Baniyas are organized into structured lineage systems (e.g., Agrawal, Oswal, Maheshwari, Porwal)

Aroras use surnames (e.g., Chadha, Juneja, Kalra, Anand) that are not tied to traditional Baniya gotras, and their marriage and clan systems are different.

>>75489

Nope, baniya

>>75483

mujhe pataa hai ki woh kaise hotay hain kyunki mein delhi mein rehta hun. Woh samne se dost banne ki koshish karte hain par peeche se sirf paisa kamaana unka motive hota hai.

Baniya kam se kam accha banne ka dhong toh nahi karte Khatriyo ki tarah.

>>75493

Dono hi chutiye hai yaar 😔

>>75490

mera kehne ka matlab tha ki arora originally ek vaishya varna ki caste they aur khatri (dhai ghar only) ek kshatriya varna ki caste they.

Lekin subsequent intermixing ke baad ab ye dono apne app ko Khatri/Punjabi boltay hain aur Kshatriya, Baniya aur Shudra teeno varnas mein traditional brahmins ke anusaar consider kiye jaate hain depending on the place and time.

>>75493

Lol kuch bhee? I am a baman from Delhi and most of my friends were Khatri and baniya, they were some of the best friends I had, though I agree that Khatris are a bit more bollywodiya (khoon mei hai kek)

>>75495

dono lootaray hain yaar.

Brahman ki yahi acchi baat hai ki woh inn dono ki tarah free ka paisa lootne ki koshi nahi kartay.

>>75497

Mai castechod nahi hu yaar bs yeh uppity rajchut/jhaat ko khud ko kshtriya bolte dekh mujhe acha nahi lgta 😔.

I'm really curious about real kshtriya castes and what happened to them, because we don't seem to have any in modern india as far as I know.

All of them are kanging to be kshtriya. I'm not sure about south india though but I assume the same is the case for them.

>>75502

Mai bhi baman hu air baman bhi chutiya hote hai.

Saare pajeet hi chutiye hote hai dekha jaaye to

>>75501

tuu unke baccho se mila hai isliye aisa bol rhaa hai. Mere uber-rich mausi ki bohot saare khatri friends hain aur isiliye mujhe unn logo ke saari batein saaf dikhti hain.

>>75503

mujhe rajpoot log sabse madarchod lagtay hain yaar. Ye saale apni behen betiyo ko musalmaan se shadi karwaa ke bhi proud feel karte hain.

UP mein sahi ho rha hai jo Yadav inki gaand maar rahe hain. Mujhe Yadav bhi bohot madar chod lagte hain waise.

>>75513

Sahi baat hai yaar, yeh saale uppity (by the way I am a nigger)s hi sabse bade deshdrohi the aur ab khud ko nation ka rakhwala gohshit krne mai lge hue hai

>>75500

For the nth time I am telling you baniya is not a varna 🥲

And I never said that Khatris are Kshatriyas, they transitioned to Trading a long time ago

>>75516

tera gotra kya hai ?

>>75519

Kaushik

>>75503

Depends on your definition, you aren't getting it, Kshatriya literally meant ruler varna

So this means, marathas or Kammas (Vijay nagar empire) which became kings and shiz, became Kshatriya by varna

And their are rajputs lineages which trace back to Vedic Kshatriyas too (if you meant Kshatriya in that sense)

>>75522

>Definition

Don't care that's a shifting goalpost. Where are the original suryavanshi/chandravanshis?

>rajputs lineages which trace back

These are all lies yaar, even bamanchods help them in fabricating these stories.

>>75521

bhai mein puraanay logo ki baat bataa rha hu

>>75524

>lies lies lies

Anon yaar...

Not worth arguing at this point, believe whatever you want, peace out✌

>>75522

>>75522

>And their are rajputs lineages which trace back to Vedic Kshatriyas too

kyu jhooth bol rhaa hai yaar.

Alchon Huns (Gurjara-Pratihara) se puraana koyi Rajput gotra exist nahi karta. Unse puraanay sirf Brahmin, Kambok aur kuch tribals hain.

>>75527

*kamboj

>>75507

Unki mummyon ko dekhke mera coom mach jata hai kek, but I don't think they are bad or anything

Even gave me good food when I went to their as a child

>>75526

He's right. There is no true lineage beyond "that one king" for any kshatriya kanging caste. Everything is fabricated. Brahmins did made up lineage to the rulers in past to fabricate them as kshatriya.

>>75526

Yaar how dumb are you? Rajchuts are literal shudras who came to claim kshtriya status during mediaeval times.

Some people even suggest they are children of raja's concubines i.e. raands but even that is far fetched.

Give me examples of real Kshtriyas and prove me wrong. i literally want to be proven wrong.

>>75529

they are**

>>75529

>Even gave me good food when I went to their as a child

bhai unke mannerism baaki sab se acche hotay hain isiliye

>>75536

toh dikkat kya hai? tereko 1000 rupay de kya free ke?

Anon Yaar..

>>74977(OP)

Fucking Ghibli

>>75167

>interest free loans

Yaar Baniyaullah

>>75270

Ponga bait

See how this thread also devolved to caste kanging

>>75493

bhai toh paisa toh sab hee kaman chahte hain...

Ab unki communities ke paas thakur, bhumihar, brahmin, jaat, gujar jaisi land holdin nahi hai toh woh dusre tareeke ke buisnesses se kamate hain..

>>75532

Kambojs are said to be Aryan tribe in Rigveda who descende to mlechha status due to their failure of observing vedic sacrifices.

But you are right about Rajputs. None of them can trace their real lineage older than Alchon-Huna (later Gurjar Pratiharas) invasions.

>>75544

So the only one with a real claim was called a mleccha, got it yaar. Very sad.

>>75543

>Ab unki communities ke paas thakur, bhumihar, brahmin, jaat, gujar jaisi land holdin nahi hai

bharhmin ke pass koyi zyadaa land holding nahi hoti. Aur gujjar sirf NCR mein hi ameer hain baaki sab jagas lower-middle class hain.

Khatris ke paas pre-partition punjab mein sabse zyadaa per-capita land holding thi.

>>75541

Caste kanging kya hai isme lodu? Jaat/Maratha/Rajchut to 100% shudra hai yaar itna bhi nhi pta tujhe to mai kya karu

>>75558

Yaar Dasyu.

Go stare at yourself in the mirror.

I am not taking your shitty baits.

>>75565

Rajchut coper found yaaro

>>75540

nahi yaar maine kab bola. Par aise faltu mein money hoarding ki aadat nahi honi chahiye. Brahmin aisa nahi karte fir bhi academically accha perform karte hain.

Agar tum paisa kamaa rahe ho toh uske badle mein kuch accha contribution bhi toh hona chahiye society in large ko. Aise faaltu mein nihilists ki tarah paisaa kamaa ke Jews ki tarah hoard karna acchi baat nahi hai.

Post with "dharm poocha, jaati nahi" devolves into jaati kya hai.

>>75471

yaar woh majority R1a1a hain. Toh pakka savarna hi honge

>>75574

hunas were converted to hindism yaar.

the assimilited like Indo-Bactrians, Sakas (scythians), parthians and Kushanas (yuezhis).

>>75603

*hinduism

>>75595

Savarna to bahut log hai yaar, aur fir later mixing se bhi R1a1 aa skta hai, isse kshtriyas thod ban jaate hai.

Their literal claim is coming after Sikhism, and they claim क्ष in poonjabi is ख when it's not. If anything it's closer to छ so it should be chhatri and not khatri.

Also them claiming luv kush is so bad like how tf two awadis got to lahore lmao

>>75553

Nope brahmins have very high landholding per capita, 0.4% brahmins in Kerela hold 4% land

In bihar 5% brahmins hold 12-15% land

even rajputs in Purvanchal + bihar have high land hold per capita

>gujjar

Hindu gujjars are mostly in Ncr + haryana only, rest are muslims which are scattered around kashmir and Pakistan

>khatris in pakistan

yep and they dont have much now, so they compensate for it, even asked my khatri friend about this and his grandpa sold all their jameen in Punjab and came here

One had it in Punjab but doesn't have anymore

>>75595

Tbh didn't look at the image where chattri is mentioned

>>75581

Abe andhbhakt , thread padhle phirse, koi kanging nahi hori hai

just discussing different communities and groups in India.

>>75620

Brahmins in south india were given land yaar when they were invited to the south, naarthies don't have that much.

>Bihar

I don't know what the fuck goes on over there though

>>75613

luv kush waali baat mythology hai.

Khatri logo ke manners baaki punjabi castes se bohot alag hain. Aisa tabhi possible hai jab unke ancestors kisi early medieval royality se belong karte honge.

Aur partition se pehle Khatri bohot kattar waale hindu hua karte thay aur aisa tabhi possible hai jab unhein Brahmins bhi upper-caste consider karte ho.

Khatri caste Punjabi Brahmins ke bohot close rahi hai historically.

>>75630

>>75630

Brahmins in South india were migrated from north only, its a very long story, sambandham relationship and all

some nairs also have paternal ancestry to some point to brahmins due to sambandham relationship between namboothri men and Nair women

Nairs and many other Ruling castes of South were matrilineal so they had these relationships

>>75644

Yaar brahmin to bahut maadarchod log hai,dusro ko status deke khud top pe rehte hai hmesha se.

Whoever acquires wealth also got to move upward in caste hierarchy that's a known fact.

>>75650

in fact even in Kerela 66% land is held by Hindu and Christian forwards castes kek

>>75650

Exactly my point, brahmins migrated south because they were offered land and that'a why they are a land owning caste down there.

But they never were a land owning caste up here.

>>75620

>In bihar 5% brahmins hold 12-15% land

bhumihar brahmins ko doosre brahmins legitimate nahi maantay.

>yep and they dont have much now, so they compensate for it

bhai unke pasa saari education aur knowledge toh thi naa. Saare khatris idhar migrate hotay he business, bollywood aur politics mein aa gaye. Mein ismein unki galti nahi maanata par mujhe sirf tab problem lagti hai sab koyi caste fizool mein money hoarding karne lagti hai doosri castes ko exploit karke.

Aur iss kaam mein Khatris aur Baniyas sabse aagay hain. India ne partition ke baad se China ke muqable koyi khaas progress nahi kari hai kyunki ye sari upper-class sirf mindless exploitation aur money hoarding mein interested hain.

>>75652

tuu dalit hai kya. kaushik banne ka larp kyu kar rhaa hai ?

>>75656

but they were given the land, of course if they weren't even there earlier, they won't have any land

Although the biggest land holding caste in Kerela is nairs with around 28-30% land

but brahmins have way higher land per capita

>>75664

>You must support your caste even when are they doing evil things

Mere pass dimag hai yaar 😔

>>75662

>bhumihar brahmins ko doosre brahmins legitimate nahi maantay.

Nope, I shared data of only brahmins like Kk, SP and maithils

Bhumihars hold even more land

and also depends upon region to region about appropriation of the two, they show high genetic affinity to local KKs and SPs

>bhai unke pasa saari education aur knowledge toh thi naa. Saare khatris idhar migrate hotay he business, bollywood aur politics mein aa gaye. Mein ismein unki galti nahi maanata par mujhe sirf tab problem lagti hai sab koyi caste fizool mein money hoarding karne lagti hai doosri castes ko exploit karke.

>Aur iss kaam mein Khatris aur Baniyas sabse aagay hain. India ne partition ke baad se China ke muqable koyi khaas progress nahi kari hai kyunki ye sari upper-class sirf mindless exploitation aur money hoarding mein interested hain.

Buijness yaar, what can we do

>>75672

Tu pakka bongoli hai.

>>75672

mujhe nahi lagta kuch evil kiya unhone.

Money hoarding sabse zyadaa evil cheez hai.

Brahmins ne sirf knowledge hoarding kari hai past mein kyunki Hinduism ek peo-elitist religion hai unlike christianity.

>>75677

Wrong yaar, mai lefty atheist hu. Mujhe is desh ki reality dekh ke kisi bhi caste ko support krne ka mann nhi krta bs.

Bhangaliyon ko mujhse jyada koi hate nahi krta.

>>75674

>Buijness yaar, what can we do

Business mein bhi ethics naam ki koyi cheez hoti hai yaar.

WASPs aur Jews mein bhi yahi difference tha.

Aaj ke Big Bankers/Holding companies aur Elon Musk mein bhi yahi difference hai.

>>75685

Fair sirs, you do you

Anyways, me out.

>>75678

Knowledge should be accessible to all.

We should always try to uploft people from lowest sections of society and not shame them for being poor/uneducated.

>>75693

democratization of knowledge acchi baat nahi. Kyunki yahi asliyat hai.

Aaj ke zamaane mein bhi Jews knowledge (esoteric) hoarding kar rahe hain despite the fact ki europe sabse zyadaa educated hai. Bas farq itna hai ki jo cheez pehle khulay-aam hoti thi (Varna system) wohi cheez aaj Jews parday ke peechay chhup ke kar rahe hain. Ye larger sysrtem ki structural dishonesty hai.

Varna system based society structurally honest thi jahaan sab logo ko saari sacchai ka pataa tha.

>>75692

bhai real achievements ke liye money hoarding zaroori nahi. Middle class Brahmins academically sabse zyadaa contribute kartein hai bina paisa hoard kiye.

t. not brahmin

>>75719

I don't agree. Internet was the best thing that happened to mankind.

>>75725

I don't disagree. We are not speaking mutually incompatible things yaar.

But do you realize that Brahmins even today hoard knowledge that most lower castes dont ?

After 100 years most of the caste will vanish with intermixing and modernization (which they already are in urban regions) BUT Brahmins will continue to exist because they have monopolized religion thus they will be able to save their gotra identities which will help them to cooperate with each other in future. We can see similar thing happening in west where Jews are an ethnic minority who have managed to save their distinct identity and now they cooperate with each other to serve each-others interests.

Leftist like you will vanish away after intemixing with dalits etc but the Brahmins tied to religion will contitnue to exists as a distinct group even in future.

There have been many tribes/kingdoms in ancient India that vanished after they lost power BUT Brahmins continued to survive and protect their distinct gotra/clan identities.

Thats how Syeds survive as well yaar.

THE BIG GAME THAT SPANS ACROSS ERAS !

>>75755

>Leftist like you will vanish away after intemixing with dalits

I don't care yaar. I just want everyone to be treated with empathy and respect and brahmins are against that so I'm against brahmins.

>>75826

Yaar in reality its the non-Brahmin savarnas and OBCs who discriminate the most against Dalits.

The official government data confirms that OBCs commit the most crimes that fall under SC/ST Act.

You are just a weak baman trying to relate with the victim class. Typical leftist mindset.

I don't have any problem with you or leftists though because such people are insignificant in the longer run.

>>75831

Brahmins don't do it themselves because others do it for them and brahmins reward them for it.

Why don't brahmins today change the scriptures? Why do we feel a debt to what our ancestors did? We're just as capable of deciding for ourselves what is wrong, and discrimination against fellow man is wrong.

>>75835

>Why don't brahmins today change the scriptures?

Lmao

>>75837

It's because they can't.

>Old people good today people bad.

Literally retarded idea followed by everyone.

>>75844

Yaar how do you even intend for scriptures to be changes? You want them to come out with manusmriti 2.0?

Just let these scriptures become irrelevant, it will happen automatically in due time.

>>75719

Lmao. If anything democratization of knowledge will amplify genetic variable even more. Once environmental factors have been equalized only those with genetics for higher iq will form the cognitive elite. It is discussed in the very first chapter of the bell curve. Which means UCs in lower percentile will also fall down.

>>75847

Just write new one yaar nahi to koi Make India great again jaise firse quote krne lgega in scriptures ko

>>75837

You are engaging with a baniya master baiter

>>75664

Katuwa hai wo. This is him in the other thread.